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Austin
Fri Feb 01 2008, 01:46AM
Austin Registered Member #1169 Joined: Wed Dec 12 2007, 09:16AM
Location: Portland OR
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its been a couple days since my last post. Here an update on the mechanical side of the project.


2007 096

Picture of me cutting the PVC to proper length for the primary support


2007 097

Drilling the holes for the primary supports


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Threading the holes (The machine just melted the plastic, so I had to hand thread)


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Squaring the piece to make sure everything is lined up correctly


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Drilling holes in the base


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Everything I have so far. believe it or not this is about 8 hours of work. I had no idea building the primary supports would take so long.

The biggest upcoming challenge will be bending the 1/4" O.D. Flexible Copper Tubing into a semi circle. Anyone have some suggestions on how I might be able to do this? Easternvoltage?

My goal will be to have the entire mechanical portion of this project done by Sunday. Then I will be able to start laying everything out inside the base. I'm sure I will have plenty of questions then.

Oh btw Wirenut, I ordered those heatsinks you suggested, they ship tomorrow and should be here sometime next week. Thanks for the tip, you have been a major help!

Until then cheerio.
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Wirenut
Fri Feb 01 2008, 02:51AM
Wirenut Registered Member #141 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 01:14PM
Location: Southern California
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update on the mechanical side of the project.

Wow, your coil is going to look much nicer than mine! Looks like you have access to all the equipment to do everything right.

believe it or not this is about 8 hours of work. I had no idea building the primary supports would take so long.

I believe it! It took me and a friend a full day to build my base and primary, and it was all wood except the acrylic top.

The biggest upcoming challenge will be bending the 1/4" O.D. Flexible Copper Tubing into a semi circle. Anyone have some suggestions on how I might be able to do this?

The copper tubing comes pre-coiled, and I recommend leaving it in this pre coiled shape. I started threading the tubing through the holes from the top down, slightly bending the tubing into a tighter radius as needed. Because of slight imperfections in my primary support hole locations, threading the tubing through the holes became difficult about halfway through, and by the end, I had two other people helping me with each of us grabbing a third of the coils and pushing in unison to finish the job. I think it may be easier for you because the friction of your pvc supports should be lower, and my wood primary supports were thicker than specified.
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HV Enthusiast
Fri Feb 01 2008, 03:31AM
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
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You shouldn't have any problem winding your primary. The copper coils are prewound so just thread it through slowly. The only difficult part is actually the 1st turn on the 1st two primary supports. Once you make that, then the copper coil just follows its way up. Anytime the coil seems stuck, just make sure its going in straight at that first support its entering from your coil of copper as thats where it will usually snag.

Yes, wood is a bitch, especially if its thicker. Plastic goes smooth as butter.

Dan
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Austin
Fri Feb 01 2008, 03:34AM
Austin Registered Member #1169 Joined: Wed Dec 12 2007, 09:16AM
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I was referring to the strike rail (sorry ill be more clear next time), which is a straight 3' length x 1/4" diameter piece of metal =P

am I suppose to use a lath to try and wind it?
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Wirenut
Fri Feb 01 2008, 03:46AM
Wirenut Registered Member #141 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 01:14PM
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I was referring to the strike rail

Strike rail should be a piece of cake compared to the primary. You could find something like a bucket or pot that is the approximate size to bend it around.
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Austin
Fri Feb 01 2008, 04:24AM
Austin Registered Member #1169 Joined: Wed Dec 12 2007, 09:16AM
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Wire your a genius, I used a 9" diameter pot (figuring that the copper would expand some) and look what I got! Perfection.


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I wonder how I should cut it...
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Wirenut
Fri Feb 01 2008, 04:49AM
Wirenut Registered Member #141 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 01:14PM
Location: Southern California
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I wonder how I should cut it...

If you want it to look really pretty, then go buy a pipe cutter from home depot - they should only cost a couple bucks in the small size you need. As for me, I just used some linesman's pliers that of course flattened the end of the tubing, but I was able to get it semi-round again with the pliers and a steel punch.

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HV Enthusiast
Fri Feb 01 2008, 02:13PM
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
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Wirenut wrote ...

I wonder how I should cut it...

If you want it to look really pretty, then go buy a pipe cutter from home depot - they should only cost a couple bucks in the small size you need. As for me, I just used some linesman's pliers that of course flattened the end of the tubing, but I was able to get it semi-round again with the pliers and a steel punch.

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*edit pic link added

Actually, the strike rail should be made of 3/8" diameter tubing, not 1/4". Doesn't make a difference functionally other than the 3/8" looks better (IMHO for a strike rail), and a bit stronger since it only has 4 supports.

You can buy short lengths of 3/8" tubing at Lowes, etc...

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Austin
Fri Feb 01 2008, 05:32PM
Austin Registered Member #1169 Joined: Wed Dec 12 2007, 09:16AM
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yes your right i got my fractions mixed! 3/8th" is bigger than 1/4" =P

I am now ready to start wiring and mounting the resonant board, half bridge, MMC, feedback transformers, and etc to the base of the tesla. what type of screws or stand offs should I use for Type 1 PVC. I know Wirenut used wood so it was probably easier for him to just screw everything to the wood. My main concern is that i will have to drill all my holes and then put a machined screw though it which would be very time consuming. also do my stand offs need to be grounded as well?

When the schematic refers to "ground" I am assuming it is not referring to the 3rd prong in the outlet of my house. I heard this was bad because the tesla could induce currents in other devices around the house like my plasma TV suprised . If the book truly means "earth ground" (3 foot steel stake in the ground) then how am I suppose to do all the fine tuning and etc? oh better yet operate in the house / garage if i wanted to?

and looking at Figure 2-8 it looks like everything is grounded through the Resonant board... am I correct?
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Wirenut
Fri Feb 01 2008, 10:09PM
Wirenut Registered Member #141 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 01:14PM
Location: Southern California
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also do my stand offs need to be grounded as well?

no

and looking at Figure 2-8 it looks like everything is grounded through the Resonant board... am I correct?

The resonant board and center-tap of the low voltage transformer can be grounded to the house ground.

3 foot steel stake in the ground

A 3' steel stake would likely make a lousy ground. Ground rods are sold at home depot and are usually 8 feet long copper-clad steel. Please see pm.
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