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ZVS Induction Heater -800W

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Kizmo
Thu Dec 13 2007, 07:07AM
Kizmo Registered Member #599 Joined: Thu Mar 22 2007, 07:40PM
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Each mosfet has its own heatsink
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KresoLiubov
Thu Dec 13 2007, 07:14AM
KresoLiubov Registered Member #1153 Joined: Mon Dec 03 2007, 07:27PM
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Kizmo wrote ...

Each mosfet has its own heatsink

Im silent angry
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Dr. H.
Thu Dec 13 2007, 01:57PM
Dr. H. Registered Member #931 Joined: Mon Jul 30 2007, 05:25PM
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High guys smile . I've been tinkering the induction heater in the past few days. I haven't killed a single mosfet since I've built it. I was able to push it up to 1500W then my rectifier shorted . The FETs were warm but nothing too serious (with fans turn on ). It takes about 4-5 seconds for a big bolt to heat up to red, and about 8-9 seconds to very bright red. But in this conditions my capacitors starts to warm a little bit.
In my experiments i found out that the coil have a GREAT influence on the work of the heater. The two parts of it MUST be absolutely identical, all the wires connecting the coil to the other parts also must be identical. The fast diodes are also very critical parts. I've tried few different and when i changed them with slower the fets starts to heat up tremendously. With the new coil (that i burnt already tongue ) i am running at 800w with almost no heating in the fets (after 2min of work the radiators were only slightly warm with fans turned OFF ).
And one question - what exactly is the purpose of the inductor rolleyes . I've changed the value allot and nothing changed in the performance ?

Cheers Huben smile
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Dr. Dark Current
Thu Dec 13 2007, 03:22PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Huben Panev wrote ...

And one question - what exactly is the purpose of the inductor rolleyes . I've changed the value allot and nothing changed in the performance ?

Cheers Huben smile
It's to provide a more-or-less constant current. The driver requires cross-conduction on the switches, without the inductor it would short out the power supply and/or explode.
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Marko
Thu Dec 13 2007, 09:04PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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The driver requires cross-conduction on the switches, without the inductor it would short out the power supply and/or explode.

That is not as important as fact that parallel LC represenst low impedance to al frequencies apart from it's f0.

The cap represents a short circuit to squarewave voltage.

Huben: your inductor worries me if I see it right... have you paralelled coils with different numbers of turns on each toroid?

You should use one fat winding, and for 800W you will probably be fine with just one of those toroids. Have you scoped the circuit to see what frequency are you running at?

If you don't care about size of the circuit you could also use one big air cored choke and stop worrying about it.

The other very important thing, are you using separate power supply for gate drive?

In any case you should get rid of 470 ohm resistors and use something much smaller.

I'd prefer 33-50 ohm resistors for fast turn on time, they will get hot but still torelable for power level you are running.

And use carbon film resistors, several in parallel if needed, not wirewound resistors.

Marko



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Dr. H.
Fri Dec 14 2007, 11:47AM
Dr. H. Registered Member #931 Joined: Mon Jul 30 2007, 05:25PM
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Hi Guys, hi Marko smile

about the inductor - no the paralleled winding has the same number of turns (originally paralleled in the PSU ) and they are from 3 identical supplies. The big air inductor is a good idea but it will get just to big angry

No i haven't scoped the frequency but i will do it today.

No I am not using a separate power supply for the gates.

I don't see what is the problem with the 470 ohms resistors - the fets are just getting slightly warm (i think there isn't too much loses in slow switching)

Sorry about the poor English guys neutral

Cheers Huben
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