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Linas
Thu Nov 29 2007, 10:24AM Print
Linas Registered Member #1143 Joined: Sun Nov 25 2007, 04:55PM
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Hi everybody

I am making TS 555 controled sstc without feedback...
and mosfet's some times go off, and blow up ..
And i don't want spend money for mosfets sad , what to do?
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uzzors2k
Thu Nov 29 2007, 10:48AM
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You might want to try running with feedback instead of a fixed frequency. The resonance frequency of the coil changes slightly from streamers or when pulling arcs. Running the coil a little off resonance creates a lot of reactive current and you lose the benefits of running a resonant load. I would simply replace the 382 kHz source with a self resonant feedback scheme. I can recommend PLL, but you could also use a a buffer chip of some sort with an antenna or current transformer.

Mini SSTC
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Linas
Thu Nov 29 2007, 10:57AM
Linas Registered Member #1143 Joined: Sun Nov 25 2007, 04:55PM
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can you schow sheme, but GDT should been driving using PNP and NPN transistors, because i couldn't get UCC drivers :(
i think about some think like that
TL494 is good for feedback imput? beacause my sstc olso can bee driving TL494 :)
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Steve Conner
Thu Nov 29 2007, 11:51AM
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When you're driving a GDT with PNP and NPN transistors like that, you need a diode between collector and emitter of each transistor to take the magnetizing current.
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Marko
Thu Nov 29 2007, 01:46PM
Marko Registered Member #89 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 02:40PM
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Steve Conner wrote ...

When you're driving a GDT with PNP and NPN transistors like that, you need a diode between collector and emitter of each transistor to take the magnetizing current.

Then I wonder how I made it to work well without diodes? confused Do the diodes conduct at all when duty cycle is full and exact?
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Linas
Thu Nov 29 2007, 02:46PM
Linas Registered Member #1143 Joined: Sun Nov 25 2007, 04:55PM
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Does someone have SSTC , which works without problem?If yes, what kind of scheme do you use? cry
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Linas
Thu Nov 29 2007, 04:39PM
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Zum Beispiel
Thu Nov 29 2007, 04:50PM
Zum Beispiel Registered Member #514 Joined: Sun Feb 11 2007, 12:27AM
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Linas wrote ...

Does someone have SSTC , which works without problem?
SSTCs and "no problems" don't mix tongue

I dunno, Steve Ward's designs are pretty solid. I use a feedback driver similiar to his desings on my Mark II (see "add your tesla coil here"-thread), and haven't had too much trouble. I get 30cm discharges and haven't blown it up in three months now (and it has weekly run times >30 minutes).

Another option is PLL. It shouldn't be much harder to set up than a regular feedback driver and gives good results.

Either way you do it, feedback is essential if you want your mosfets to live. Going off tune causes hard switching, which in turn makes the mosfets go BOOM. Also, for best reliability, make sure you have a good safety margin on everything. Use beefier FETs, so that a sudden surge in power won't fry them.

Hope this helps.
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Linas
Thu Nov 29 2007, 06:13PM
Linas Registered Member #1143 Joined: Sun Nov 25 2007, 04:55PM
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I don't care what kind of tesla coil make, i just need long and bright spark , is it posible without mosfet blow's ?? smile
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uzzors2k
Thu Nov 29 2007, 07:30PM
uzzors2k Registered Member #95 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:57PM
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Yes.
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