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ragnar

Sat Nov 24 2007, 01:42PM

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IMHO, it is a sad day for Australian history. Those concerned probably now know that Labor "won" the election. 8/8 state governments under Labor control, and now 1/1 federal governments at Labor whim.

This victory for the left will be very keenly noted in the USA -- the Democrats ("Labor") will probably triumph over the Republicans ("old money") in the US presidential elections.

Seeing that coming, George Bush will likely be tempted to press some buttons which he knows will otherwise never be pressed. Let's hope none of our friends are in the countries concerned, at that time.

China will be cajoling Chairman Rudd into allegiance... except Rudd won't have to murder seven hundred thousand (five million) people.

Just watch the new Labor government hasten to make an Australian BHP-Billiton / Rio Tinto company merger impossible -- it will happen in simple response to a phone call from The Party (Beijing, of course). [That is Beijing, representing state steel mills that source 60% of their iron ore from BHP/Billiton and from Rio Tinto, separately)

To the good guys out there:

Keep a low profile.

Smile a lot.

Bjørn

Sat Nov 24 2007, 02:40PM

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Hey-ho to the Dogger bank we go...

Coyote Wilde

Sat Nov 24 2007, 02:50PM

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The normal form is People's Socialist Republic, but Albania used your form for a while... but Albanian-style communism and the state-run capitalist autocracy of the laughably named "People's Republic" of China are pretty far apart. As a rule, we Lefties don't view Beijing as the seat of The Party... or anything but an unfettered capitalist monstrosity that sells lead-lined date rape drugs to our children. The Left dislikes Globalization, and China is that spectre personified.

Even if GWB were tempted to push buttons, the United States Officer Corps is the third most educated group in the American public. And there are some illegal orders which their doctrine tells them not to follow-- committing planetary suicide by way of a reasonless first strike is one of them. And Bush may be incompetent, a toad to the oil companies, or whatever you'd like, but the man is not insane.
And he probably doesn't care that much about Australia anyway.

Coronafix

Sat Nov 24 2007, 10:37PM

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...and then there are the political tinfoil hatters!
I have awoken this morning to people arguing over politics, and even here, there is no peace.
I think there were a lot of fights last night between the liberal fascists and the labor socialists,
while the greens kicked back, smoked a spliff and said, "Thank God he's out! Who's next?"

Simon

Sun Nov 25 2007, 03:15AM

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So that's why there are red banners everywhere today...

Steve Conner

Sun Nov 25 2007, 11:30AM

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I've bought shares in the Australian Furry Hat And Missile-Parading Truck Company.

uzzors2k

Sun Nov 25 2007, 12:22PM

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The People's Mario

First Mario then Australia, the world revolution must be at hand!

Bored Chemist

Sun Nov 25 2007, 01:54PM

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Is the Australian Labour party actually left wing or is it like "New Labour" here in the UK ie not very soft Tory?

ragnar

Sun Nov 25 2007, 03:42PM

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The ALP intends to massively increase aid spending on other countries, will offer "need-based" [a dangerous euphemism] incentives and subsidies, etc, etc, etc... "left" enough to do some pretty bad impact, IMO.

WaveRider

Sun Nov 25 2007, 04:16PM

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Hi Matt....you are probably being facetious in your post, but I will respond seriously (having spent a lot of time in Australia myself)... I don't think you will suffer much more under a Labor gov't than under Liberal.. Little Johnny was past his use-by date anyway...

I would hardly call the Labor Party "Left". Also, Marxism and socialism in many ways have become parodies of themselves that few take them seriously anymore (witness Italy's not one, but two useless communist parties....). The Australian Labor party probably won't make as much hay over boat-children being thrown overboard than Howard's previous campaign did.....

Anyway, left and right don't seem to make sense anymore...political boundaries shift and become blurry..... What frightens me more is a return of religion to serious political discourse in the Western world...but that is worth another thread ;)

In short, Matt...you will do just fine. Australia is still the "lucky country" despite problems like energy supply, water shortage and the tyranny of distance... How Australia solves its most pressing problems can become a model for the world..

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