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HvHaxor05

Fri Nov 16 2007, 08:16PM

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ok im trying to make a "thing" i need help trying to make the smallist hv that can make it needs to be able to light "things" so no pizeo

Chris

Sat Nov 17 2007, 01:13AM

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The most compact electric lighter you can get that will even compare to like a butane cigarette lighter will be just a li-poly battery and a piece of nichrome with a switch. Even that will be much bulkier and lower power than a butane lighter. A HV electric arc will require a small flyback or something and be even more bulky and less efficient, as well as requiring even more power (so shorter battery life) to do the same thing since it loses more to radiation. The moral of the story is, if you want an electric lighter than can match the compactness and performance of a $1 butane lighter, that's just too bad; we haven't even come close unless you go to something that runs off a power cord.

These li-poly batteries I speak of will cost between $20 and $50 for the size range you need, plus a special charger, and they can be dangerous if shorted or overcharged (yes, they really will blow up just as violently as a butane lighter, and it's much easier to make it happen). They are the only type of battery on the market today which is even close to suitable, nonetheless. A 12V (11.1V nominal, 12.6V full charge) 2200mA one is still several times larger than a typical butane lighter, and has a similar energy capacity, and retails for about $50. They are great for any number of small high power electric devices, but for lighting stuff, it looks like gas fueled devices will be around for quite awhile.

HvHaxor05

Sat Nov 17 2007, 03:56AM

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Chris wrote ...

The most compact electric lighter you can get that will even compare to like a butane cigarette lighter will be just a li-poly battery and a piece of nichrome with a switch. Even that will be much bulkier and lower power than a butane lighter. A HV electric arc will require a small flyback or something and be even more bulky and less efficient, as well as requiring even more power (so shorter battery life) to do the same thing since it loses more to radiation. The moral of the story is, if you want an electric lighter than can match the compactness and performance of a $1 butane lighter, that's just too bad; we haven't even come close unless you go to something that runs off a power cord.

These li-poly batteries I speak of will cost between $20 and $50 for the size range you need, plus a special charger, and they can be dangerous if shorted or overcharged (yes, they really will blow up just as violently as a butane lighter, and it's much easier to make it happen). They are the only type of battery on the market today which is even close to suitable, nonetheless. A 12V (11.1V nominal, 12.6V full charge) 2200mA one is still several times larger than a typical butane lighter, and has a similar energy capacity, and retails for about $50. They are great for any number of small high power electric devices, but for lighting stuff, it looks like gas fueled devices will be around for quite awhile.

lol i have a lighter i do smoke

what i wanna so it to light "things" inside of a small enclosed area i have made a small ignition coil like transformer with a 26g primary and a 30g feedback and a 40g secondary it arcs about 1/4" with a 555 flyback driver but not tuned at right feq im going to make a single transistor if you have any beater ideas speak now

Chris

Sat Nov 17 2007, 04:15AM

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I think you just want to blow stuff up.

HvHaxor05

Sat Nov 17 2007, 08:45AM

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Chris wrote ...

I think you just want to blow stuff up.

ummmm no its a bit more illigal

Wolfram

Sat Nov 17 2007, 06:23PM

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