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IntraWinding
Fri Jun 11 2010, 02:25PM
IntraWinding Registered Member #2261 Joined: Mon Aug 03 2009, 01:19AM
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Kerosene Radio

Made in Moscow for use in rural areas, this all-wave radio is reportedly powered by the kerosene lamp hanging above it. A group of thermocouples is heated internally to 570 degrees by the flame. Fins cool the outside to about 90 degrees. The temperature differential generates enough current to operate the low-drain reciever. Regular listeners may want fur lined union suits, though: it works best in a room with open windows Link2

And scroll down about half way here Link2

Kerosene Lamp Powers Radio

REMOTE areas of Siberia and China use thermoelectric generators like the one shown here to convert heat from a kerosene lamp into electricity for radios.

The 20-lb. device is being studied by scientists at the Martin Co., Baltimore, Md., where similar direct conversion principles have been applied to nuclear heat sources. They paid $56 for the Russian-built device.

A series of thermocouples is arranged around the upper portion of the lamp. As each set of elements is heated at one end by the lamp, a small amount of electricity flows through the pair. Metallic fins remove the excess heat.
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radiotech
Fri Jun 11 2010, 03:43PM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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You could make a rain powered generator. Small scale paddle wheel or cup wheels turning a series of small generators made out of permanent magnet DC motors-(battery powered hand tools are a good source.) Calculate how much energy is in falling rain over an area.

Also consider if you overhaul the load (reverse the shaft torque) in an AC washing machine motor) you can make your electricity meter slow down or actually turn in reverse (feed the grid). These generators are known as induction generators and are used in industry to recover energy in certain situations.
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Sulaiman
Fri Jun 11 2010, 05:35PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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For "green" energy I have two 5W solar panels that will probably never pay for themselves but on eBay there are relatively cheap individual cells that I calculated could pay for themselves in c3 years.
I use them to recharge or 'float charge' VRLA batteries for a transceiver that I'm building, it's just that amateur radio is independant of communications infrastructure so I want it independant of the power infrastructure too.

Bio-mass seems the next easiest, either to ferment to alcohol or dry and burn.

Small wind turbines look practical.

For peltiers etc. a Freznel lens or a concave mirror/reflector (old satellite dish?) would up the power per unit.

How about a small turbine on the house water system so every time you use water you get electricity ?

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Mattski
Sat Jun 12 2010, 06:38PM
Mattski Registered Member #1792 Joined: Fri Oct 31 2008, 08:12PM
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One of the senior projects at my school this year was a thermoelectric generator. It was a big box with a fresnel lens focusing on a black absorber. Then absorber -> copper heat spreader -> thermoelectric device -> heat sink with fan.

The whole box was sun tracking, based on a lookup table of location and time of day. It would wake up every now and then for a quick reorienting. In full sunlight it supposedly produced about 2W above the power usage, since the reorienting circuitry spent most of its time asleep.
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Crunchy Frog
Sun Jun 13 2010, 09:55PM
Crunchy Frog Registered Member #2422 Joined: Tue Oct 06 2009, 02:41AM
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This reminds me, I read a while back about satellites generating power by extending a long (like a few km) wire or loop of wire into space, but I can't find anything about it now because I can't remember what it's called.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
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Bjørn
Sun Jun 13 2010, 10:43PM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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You will find it here: Link2
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