If you need assistance, please send an email to forum at 4hv dot org. To ensure your email is not marked as spam, please include the phrase "4hv help" in the subject line. You can also find assistance via IRC, at irc.shadowworld.net, room #hvcomm.
Support 4hv.org!
Donate:
4hv.org is hosted on a dedicated server. Unfortunately, this server costs and we rely on the help of site members to keep 4hv.org running. Please consider donating. We will place your name on the thanks list and you'll be helping to keep 4hv.org alive and free for everyone. Members whose names appear in red bold have donated recently. Green bold denotes those who have recently donated to keep the server carbon neutral.
Special Thanks To:
Aaron Holmes
Aaron Wheeler
Adam Horden
Alan Scrimgeour
Andre
Andrew Haynes
Anonymous000
asabase
Austin Weil
barney
Barry
Bert Hickman
Bill Kukowski
Blitzorn
Brandon Paradelas
Bruce Bowling
BubeeMike
Byong Park
Cesiumsponge
Chris F.
Chris Hooper
Corey Worthington
Derek Woodroffe
Dalus
Dan Strother
Daniel Davis
Daniel Uhrenholt
datasheetarchive
Dave Billington
Dave Marshall
David F.
Dennis Rogers
drelectrix
Dr. John Gudenas
Dr. Spark
E.TexasTesla
eastvoltresearch
Eirik Taylor
Erik Dyakov
Erlend^SE
Finn Hammer
Firebug24k
GalliumMan
Gary Peterson
George Slade
GhostNull
Gordon Mcknight
Graham Armitage
Grant
GreySoul
Henry H
IamSmooth
In memory of Leo Powning
Jacob Cash
James Howells
James Pawson
Jeff Greenfield
Jeff Thomas
Jesse Frost
Jim Mitchell
jlr134
Joe Mastroianni
John Forcina
John Oberg
John Willcutt
Jon Newcomb
klugesmith
Leslie Wright
Lutz Hoffman
Mads Barnkob
Martin King
Mats Karlsson
Matt Gibson
Matthew Guidry
mbd
Michael D'Angelo
Mikkel
mileswaldron
mister_rf
Neil Foster
Nick de Smith
Nick Soroka
nicklenorp
Nik
Norman Stanley
Patrick Coleman
Paul Brodie
Paul Jordan
Paul Montgomery
Ped
Peter Krogen
Peter Terren
PhilGood
Richard Feldman
Robert Bush
Royce Bailey
Scott Fusare
Scott Newman
smiffy
Stella
Steven Busic
Steve Conner
Steve Jones
Steve Ward
Sulaiman
Thomas Coyle
Thomas A. Wallace
Thomas W
Timo
Torch
Ulf Jonsson
vasil
Vaxian
vladi mazzilli
wastehl
Weston
William Kim
William N.
William Stehl
Wesley Venis
The aforementioned have contributed financially to the continuing triumph of 4hv.org. They are deserving of my most heartfelt thanks.
Registered Member #76
Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 10:04AM
Location: Hemer, Germany
Posts: 458
i use 141k between each stage (3x 47K in series) hope that the marx will charge faster with them, cause i had problems in my previous marx using big resistors in the range of megaohms. well, i want to use a nst with 4x cw multiplier to get around 32 kV for the caps. sure i´ll limit the current to some mA.. total overkill i know, but it looks great :P
Registered Member #162
Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3141
I've never built a Marx Generator, so maybe someone with practical experience can give the real answer, but I believe that Marx generators work better when the uv from one spark gap helps to trigger the next so if you could arrange a clear line-of-sight for the spark gaps that MAY be better.
Registered Member #76
Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 10:04AM
Location: Hemer, Germany
Posts: 458
yeah, i heard of that and its right that the uv helps triggering or pre ionizing the next gap and further but, when the first gap fires (which is the trigger gap) the voltage on the second gap is twice the Uin so 64 kv. with or without the uv the second gap will surely fire.
And Myke. I tested the sparklenght for a 25 and 30kv arc and came up with 2,5 to 3,2cm. the gaps are arranged to 2,8cm but i can adjust every brass ball +-5mm so i can adjust the gaps roughly between 2,8 and 2cm. i think thats enough room to play with. if this fails for some reason i can add a second nut on the rod to mount the gap another 6mm closer. so i thought about the gap distance and planned that i might change some things. the 3 stage test setup will tell tommorow or over the week though :P
Registered Member #123
Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 12:58PM
Location:
Posts: 162
Just thought i would offer a tip for people who cant source brass balls. I use ball bearings. I heat to red heat slowly to ensure deep penetration. Then allow them to cool at room temperature to anneal(soften).
This will allow you to drill and tap. Just go slow and hard with the drill bit with lube and it works fine.
Registered Member #162
Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3141
I hope I'm wrong, but the space between spark gap electrodes does not look to be twice the gap between dome-nut and spark gap electrode. (twice the voltage) I hope it doesn't arc over in the wrong places.
This site is powered by e107, which is released under the GNU GPL License. All work on this site, except where otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. By submitting any information to this site, you agree that anything submitted will be so licensed. Please read our Disclaimer and Policies page for information on your rights and responsibilities regarding this site.