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Tesladownunder
Mon Oct 08 2007, 03:18AM
Tesladownunder Registered Member #10 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 09:45AM
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Depending on the LED's and the sensitivity of your circuit, use complementary filters eg blue cellophane over the LED's (or just use blue LED's) and red cellophane over the photodiodes. You have to make your output not couple with your input as in any closed system or it will oscillate. Alternatively, reverse your phase ie turn the lights off with proximity which gives negative rather than positive feedback (I think).
Neither of these might be practical in your case though.

TDU
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Mon Oct 08 2007, 03:25AM
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I vote for putting a vis filter on the photodiodes (o using the ones that are made of black plastic).

There is plenty of IR light flying around to trigger everything in most conditions (although a few always-on IR leds couldn't hurt)...

Looks great in any case!

I wat to see a video of it once you get it working perfect smile
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ragnar
Tue Oct 09 2007, 03:10AM
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I worry that the negative feedback could pretty much inhibit the LEDs coming on at all (as I found out with the original circuit with the 2N7000, if the phototransistor could "see" the LEDs at all.

Black IR-transmissive screening.... that sounds like a good idea.

I was going to consider a simple delay circuit, but with sufficiently large arrays, there would still be feedback issues -- you'd get a "wave" of light bouncing back and forth along the array... pretty, but not the interactive result I'm intending.

I guess I'll have to give it a try with dim, crappy LEDs...

The resolution of the array is also causing trouble. If the array consist of only hand-sized sensors, then if you wave a hand-sized object (i.e. a hand) over the top, adjacent sensors will not "see" the illuminated hand. As soon as the object is larger (unless it's totally black) than one element in the LED/sensing array... the others will see the illuminated surface above them.
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Bjørn
Tue Oct 09 2007, 04:58AM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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This is why the future is digital and programmable. When the program does not work you change it and 5 minutes later it all works. A hint to those that still are fairly young, after a certain age it becomes very hard to become a good programmer so sooner is lot better than later.

Multiplexing might work to stop the wrong LEDs affecting the photodiodes.
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Steve Conner
Tue Oct 09 2007, 08:49AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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I know! I know! I'm struggling with C++ and Win32 right now at work. It makes PICs look easy :(
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