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Bjørn
Sat Jul 21 2007, 06:03AM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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The clock in the camera is 3 minutes fast and I checked the exact location in case it makes a difference:
68.078
15.479

This picture was taken 20 seconds later and is the same brightness but seems to have some camera shake. If anyone can try to estimate the brightness it might be helpful.
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Coronafix
Sat Jul 21 2007, 08:24AM
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I think it's some type of eagle. tongue
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kv
Sat Jul 21 2007, 08:29AM
kv Registered Member #809 Joined: Wed May 30 2007, 08:59AM
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hahaha cheesey i still stick with my sattelite\plane thoery though:-D
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Bjørn
Sat Jul 21 2007, 08:52AM
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I have copied in a plane pictured a few days earlier. Even a small plane flying at very high altitude would be easy to spot in the picture as you can see. That it did not move significantly in a minute also makes it very unlikely to be a plane.



1185007966 27 FT28664 Eagle737
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GreySoul
Sat Jul 21 2007, 01:31PM
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...so like... how big is that bird!?

I figured it was just a buzzard... now I'm thinking it's some kind of giant ancient Thunderbird come to wreak havoc on us.

I for one welcome our new avian overlord.

edit:
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Bjørn
Sat Jul 21 2007, 01:44PM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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The bird is an eagle (Haliaeetus albicilla) and can have a wingspan of up to 240 cm, the plane is a Boeing 737 and has a wingspan that is 14-15 times larger.

The bird appears larger than the plane because it is a few hundred metres from the camera and the plane is several kilometres from the kamera.
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Steve Conner
Sat Jul 21 2007, 09:05PM
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I sense a conspiracy theory. I bet it was swamp gas reflecting off a black helicopter in LEO. It appears silver because it was wearing a tin foil hat.
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Danielle
Sat Jul 21 2007, 11:35PM
Danielle Registered Member #632 Joined: Mon Apr 09 2007, 01:09AM
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you all are stupid all you needed to do was zoom in you can clearly see that voyager I has returned cheesey
1185060949 632 FT28664 1184897012 27 Ft28664 Eagle
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Dave Marshall
Sun Jul 22 2007, 12:06AM
Dave Marshall Registered Member #16 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 02:22PM
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Bjørn,

Are there any weather stations/meteorological installations/large airports up wind from that location? It could in all seriousness be a high altitude balloon playing a trick with the sun.

Some of the larger weather balloons can hit 100,000 feet, and often carry payloads the size of a shoebox or larger. If the payload were covered in a reflective material, it could definitely cause a glare. Once it got above the high altitude jet streams, horizontal movement would be pretty minimal, meaning it could have been cruising along at a speed and direction such that it caught the sun and held the reflection in a good spot for you to view it for a prolonged period of time.

American weather service offices tend to release their balloons at 06Z and/or 1400L, depending on local conditions and forecasting interests. Those times offer the best picture of convective potential.

Given the apparent altitude, a balloon released at 12Z from some point down range from you is a reasonable possibility.

Dave
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Bjørn
Sun Jul 22 2007, 02:53AM
Bjørn Registered Member #27 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 02:20AM
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There is an airport 100km away that sends up balloons at 1110 UTC and 2310 UTC so it sounds quite likely.
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