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Igintion Coil Driver Idea (Not a good one)

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Snowcat
Wed Jun 27 2007, 07:23PM Print
Snowcat Registered Member #866 Joined: Wed Jun 27 2007, 07:04PM
Location: Wilmington N.C.
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I was looking at various methods of driving a igintion coil. I thought that if one connected a diode in line with the 120v AC it would stop every other cycle and pulse power to the coil.
How bad of an idea is this? It works kind of.
How can i make it better?
Thanks

Here are some pictures of my coil and heat sink. Note: I am Remaking the wiring tonight. I made the heat sink on a CNC mill. It is comprised of 8 layers stacked and bolted together with a computer case fan guled to the side.

1182972013 866 FT0 Coil1


1182972102 866 FT0 Coil2

1182972117 866 FT0 Coil3
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Wed Jun 27 2007, 07:36PM
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
Location: Southern Califorina, USA
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Using strait halfway rectified mains is a pretty bad idea, because the core in the coil can only store so much energy, so once you have 'charged' it completly, the rest of the energy is just going into heating the coil...

Also, I would be weary of heatsinking the coil like that, as you run a decent chance of having the windings burning up while the outside feels cool. I suppose once it heats up enough you should start to get some convection currents in the oil...
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Snowcat
Wed Jun 27 2007, 07:57PM
Snowcat Registered Member #866 Joined: Wed Jun 27 2007, 07:04PM
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I made the heat sink as a excuse to work on it in class.
i am a maching tech student.
It take 30 sec - 1 min for the heat in the windings to get to the case anyways.
Thus the heat sink only helps to reduce time between firings.
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Myke
Thu Jun 28 2007, 01:27AM
Myke Registered Member #540 Joined: Mon Feb 19 2007, 07:49PM
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I think you would have to have some way to limit the current to a smaller amount. I would just try to build the light dimmer ignition coil driver if you want sparks easily.
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Steve Ward
Thu Jun 28 2007, 02:07AM
Steve Ward Registered Member #146 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 04:21AM
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The problem is that there is no large dI/dt, so the output voltage will be far lower than otherwise possible. You need a sudden switch-off of current, which 60hz is extremely slow compared to the time scales im talking about.
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Snowcat
Thu Jun 28 2007, 02:28AM
Snowcat Registered Member #866 Joined: Wed Jun 27 2007, 07:04PM
Location: Wilmington N.C.
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Thanks guys
I will try to use a light dimmer.
The main reason i used the diode idea is the i had an old arcade game power supply that had a pair of diodes on it. And i tried the 555 timer method but failed. I am not the best at soldering (I have very little money my friend had the ignition coil)
About what you were saying Steve what range would better?

I am also considering what to do with the capcitiors (220uf @200v)x2 and other part on the power supply.

1182997720 866 FT27439 Arcadeps
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Electroholic
Thu Jun 28 2007, 03:27AM
Electroholic Registered Member #191 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 02:01AM
Location: Esbjerg Denmark
Posts: 720
how about that self oscillating relay driver. it can't be any simpler.
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uzzors2k
Thu Jun 28 2007, 09:12AM
uzzors2k Registered Member #95 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:57PM
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Snowcat
Thu Jun 28 2007, 11:14AM
Snowcat Registered Member #866 Joined: Wed Jun 27 2007, 07:04PM
Location: Wilmington N.C.
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I will try the relay as well.
I will endevour to find a suitible relay.
Thanks
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