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Question about a Flyback TV Transformer

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Dakota
Mon Jun 04 2007, 11:42PM Print
Dakota Registered Member #822 Joined: Mon Jun 04 2007, 09:36PM
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Well this is probably a odd thing but I recently got a TV Flyback Transformer. I tested it to find which leads were the coils and after finding what i thought to be the primary attached it to a 120v AC line. After a second it blew smoke and enamel out a small hole around the ferrite center. After that i was unplugging stuff and it would click even after being disconnected, 30 minutes later. What was caused this to happen and is it still usable??
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nrhoades
Tue Jun 05 2007, 12:03AM
nrhoades Registered Member #610 Joined: Wed Mar 28 2007, 09:44PM
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I'm not quite sure that any flyback transformer from a television set would survive being plugged directly into the wall. You probably vaporized the primary, and I'm sure the thing is dead especially if you saw material being removed from it. The clicking might have been the discharge of the magnetic energy stored in the gap? maybe a thirty minute delay indicates how much you saturated the ferrite?

Most flybacks are driven by high frequency circuits on the order of tens of volts.
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Dakota
Tue Jun 05 2007, 12:08AM
Dakota Registered Member #822 Joined: Mon Jun 04 2007, 09:36PM
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OK j/w because it was an old transformer that I wasn't sure what it would do...but thats ok I've replaced it with a neon sign transformer.
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Sparkie
Tue Jun 05 2007, 12:18AM
Sparkie Registered Member #627 Joined: Thu Apr 05 2007, 04:05PM
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Would have liked to see that anyway. Have a read on 'flyback drivers' and learn a bit how they work before trying anything tongue
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Billybobjoe
Tue Jun 05 2007, 01:20AM
Billybobjoe Registered Member #396 Joined: Wed Apr 19 2006, 12:55AM
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Its definitely dead, chances are the secondary was also ruined from the heating. And the clicking may have been caused by thermal contraction from cooling after you so violently heated the core and epoxy/insulation.
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CT2
Tue Jun 05 2007, 02:11AM
CT2 Registered Member #180 Joined: Thu Feb 16 2006, 02:12AM
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I once was trying to run a flyback, I forget exactly how I was driving it now... but similar thing happend. The core started to buzz all of a sudden and then exploded into two pieces and shot out of the flyback with a puff of smoke. After the core was hot for a long time and I guess some resin melted or something because I couldn't go back downstairs for a while due to the smell... scared the crap out of me when it happend haha.
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Dakota
Tue Jun 05 2007, 02:35AM
Dakota Registered Member #822 Joined: Mon Jun 04 2007, 09:36PM
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lol. Well my testing time was also about 12 o'clock and I was half asleep but the test leads that ran from the transformer to my tester got a good coating of enamel.
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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)
Tue Jun 05 2007, 04:51AM
Hazmatt_(The Underdog) Registered Member #135 Joined: Sat Feb 11 2006, 12:06AM
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If you're half asleep you have NO business playing with high voltage, Flyback, NST, MOT, or otherwise.

Take this as Tough Love from someone who has had their fair share of shocks in the past as an experimenter, researcher, I have been there.
Respect the HV.

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nrhoades
Tue Jun 05 2007, 02:51PM
nrhoades Registered Member #610 Joined: Wed Mar 28 2007, 09:44PM
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Back in the day, my co-worker was telling me about a time when he used to repair television sets. For some debugging reason he needed to test the set while it was fully powered. He accidently got too close to the flyback output and he received a spark to the head. He woke up 2 days later in the hospital, very dizzy. (I suppose its one thing to get zapped in your finger as opposed to your brain).

HV isn't a toy.
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