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What the *beep*? PC fan that generates significant HF emissions?

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robert
Fri Feb 02 2007, 12:56PM Print
robert Registered Member #188 Joined: Thu Feb 16 2006, 05:18PM
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Just cleaned out a pc fan and as soon as i connected it to a power supply, ma radio began to produce lots of noise.
I suspected the Power supply but it wasnt since this setup
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produced these results:
Current
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Voltage
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Now whats that?
I know that isnt how its supposed to be like...
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Steve Conner
Fri Feb 02 2007, 01:18PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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I think the fan must have an electrolytic decoupling cap inside that has gone bad. Otherwise, I guess it's badly designed or has a manufacturing fault. Nice test equipment, BTW!
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robert
Fri Feb 02 2007, 07:23PM
robert Registered Member #188 Joined: Thu Feb 16 2006, 05:18PM
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Theres no filter capacitor of any sort.
The pc board of the fan contains one 4-pin hall switch, one transistor and 4 or 5 smd resistors, thats all.

40Mhz is a little low for parasitic oscillations but if the wires (maybe the wire to the switch) act as capacitors that could be enough capacitance for that freq. range.
Still, the fan really shouldnt do that since it causes bad interference.
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Conundrum
Sat Feb 03 2007, 12:21AM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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Actually I was toying with the idea of modifying one of these fans (using tuned toroidal coil) into a basic SMPS.

The 5V variety of these will run down to 3V (just) and the internal Hall sensor helps regulate both frequency and power...

I expect that a defective sensor would produce HF oscillations if something had fried, just as a zener will oscillate if "cooked".

-A
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Steve Conner
Sat Feb 03 2007, 12:42PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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I wouldn't be surprised if the circuit needed a capacitor, but they left it out to save space or money. Try looking up the datasheet for the fan driver IC to see if it recommends a bypass cap.

I've never seen a zener oscillate when cooked. They just blow short circuit.
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