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Dr. Shark
Sun Jan 28 2007, 03:49PM
Dr. Shark Registered Member #75 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 09:30AM
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I was only trying to make a very small nozzle, about the size of the basic "Estes" rocket motors. If more people are interested in talk about rockets, maybe we should start a new thread?
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Tetrafluoroethane
Tue Jan 30 2007, 12:58PM
Tetrafluoroethane Registered Member #127 Joined: Fri Feb 10 2006, 03:36PM
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I have always found that for lost-wax casting it is better to evaporate the wax out of the mold at high temperature before attempting your cast. If you cannot get the mold up to a temperature high enough to evaporate the wax you might try lost-foam casting instead. I believe you can leave the foam in the mold before pouring in the casting metal (since foam is mostly air anyway).
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Carbon_Rod
Wed Jan 31 2007, 06:41AM
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Propane fired crucibles are fast and cheap.

The problem is Al alloys (cans etc.) often pour like cottage cheese even with the right slag. No good for fine work as the top 10" of the casting may have pits, or hot tears.

cheers,
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Madgyver
Wed Jan 31 2007, 01:32PM
Madgyver Registered Member #177 Joined: Wed Feb 15 2006, 02:16PM
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Carbon_Rod wrote ...

Propane fired crucibles are fast and cheap.

The problem is Al alloys (cans etc.) often pour like cottage cheese even with the right slag. No good for fine work as the top 10" of the casting may have pits, or hot tears.

cheers,
That's because that alloy isnt meant for casting. Aluminium cans are pressed into shape.

Look for engines at your local scrap yard. The whole block or the zylinders are often made out of good aluminium alloys, which cast very easy.
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muciek man
Wed Jan 31 2007, 06:48PM
muciek man Registered Member #163 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 01:55PM
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if any one is intrested in building an aluminium foundry in a 5 gallon bucket
check out lindsaybks.com. they have lots of old out of print books and even tesla coil stuff.
the 5 gallon bucket foundary is under the gingery books section and labeled build a charcoal foundary.
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Dr. Shark
Thu Feb 15 2007, 08:40PM
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Here is one of the parts I made, I finally got a picture of it
1171572028 75 FT20010 Group Al
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Banana Man
Fri May 04 2007, 12:07AM
Banana Man Registered Member #625 Joined: Tue Apr 03 2007, 08:05AM
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I have a bunch of 40mm grenade casings waiting to be cast into half of an aluminum/brass chess set. They're obviously made of a tough alloy and appear to be swaged or extruded into shape. After I melt them down and, with my luck, realize it's a bad alloy for casting there must be another metal like lead that can be mixed with aluminum to make it fill better and prevent bubbles. Perhaps vibrations or vacuum might work if I can work quickly enough.
I wish I had this thingy. http://www.koslow.com/te-3000.html
Actually that's more of a doodad.
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Chris
Fri May 04 2007, 12:53AM
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Yes, vacuum casting could lower the melting point, reduce oxidation, and eliminate bubbles. Those are all good things.
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Banana Man
Thu May 10 2007, 05:37AM
Banana Man Registered Member #625 Joined: Tue Apr 03 2007, 08:05AM
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Huzzah! I suppose I could cast them in a cylindrical container with a flat, cork gasket lid. Then immediately after pouring set off a fireball to heat the air then as it cools and tries to fill the space it will seal the lid and create a vacuum. I imagine this to be the simplest way as long as proper safety protocols are followed. Hydrogen (not mixed with pure oxygen) would rationally make the best vacuum since it produces steam then water instead of gasses and would be a good motivation for me to make my newly invented type of electrolyzer, at least I dont think anybody has ever made one that works like mine. I dont have space in the barraks to make a bulky vacuum casting machine so wish me luck with my crazy go boomy hydrogen/steam vacuum of doom.
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Chris
Thu May 10 2007, 01:31PM
Chris Registered Member #8 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 04:34AM
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Cork gasket? Wouldn't something that can withstand very high temperature be more appropriate? Maybe a very thin gold wire could form the gasket, or something like that?

A gas that reacts to form a solid would be most appropriate for this; just purge the vessel with some pure oxygen or chlorine before starting, and its reaction with the aluminum should gain this result. Good luck, and be careful.
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