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Fri Nov 17 2006, 01:08AM
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It is very possible to levitate something above a magnet...
1163725619 56 FT17926 Img 1949


I will admit that black wasn't the best choice of background, but when you click the link the graphite is levitating ~1mm above the bock of 4 magnets quite stable (I promise that there isn't anything above)

Also works great the other way if you use a superconductor instead of the graphite (but I don't have any LN2 to get my superconductor puck going atm, so you will just have google it)




I suppose if you paved the roads with superconductors you could...
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teravolt
Fri Nov 17 2006, 05:40AM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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I ran into a website that was selling neodinium magnets and they were suspending a small neo magnet betwean two peaces of bismith and they said that bismith has antimagnetic propertys. Has any body checked this out or tried this. N.B.
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Fri Nov 17 2006, 06:16AM
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That works too, but you need to have a strong magnet above the setup. I don't have the thing set up atm, but if you really want to see it work I could put it together. You need to have a large magnet above the setup that provides the bulk of the lift, and then the last little bit is provided by the graphite.

To give you an idea of the 'efficiency' using one my 3/8" cube magnets ~2" above the small magnet I could levitate a .1" cube magnet ~1.5mm above a piece of graphite. I should point out that there is a very small (talking a for .001ths of an inch) 'sweet spot' that lets the magnet levitate, too close and the little magnet shoots up to the big one, too far and the magnet just sits there. Once you hit the sweet spot it is somewhat stable, however blowing on the magnet causes it to die.

Fun stuff cheesey
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Coronafix
Fri Nov 17 2006, 07:09AM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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teravolt wrote ...

I ran into a website that was selling neodinium magnets and they were suspending a small neo magnet betwean two peaces of bismith and they said that bismith has antimagnetic propertys. Has any body checked this out or tried this. N.B.

Bismuth has a very high negative magnetic susceptibility, in other words, diamagnetic.
It will take on the same pole as it's presented with, therefore repelling.

Another way I heard of to make a levitating object is to wind a coil of say 1mm wire 250mm diameter, about 50 or more turns. Put it over an aluminium plate and plug it into the mains.
Gets hot really quick but levitates over the plate.
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Tesladownunder
Fri Nov 17 2006, 11:06AM
Tesladownunder Registered Member #10 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 09:45AM
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I have made a diamagnetic levitation unit with Bismuth. First pic.
Also a coil levitating above a copper plate. Second pic.
I hope to get some pyrolytic graphite sometime to make the other diamagnetic demo.
I haven't been successful with the Levitron.
What I want is "pure" levitation though with a simple static object above another. Surely there must be a picture somewhere.

Peter
1163761609 10 FT17926 Magdiamsmall475

1163761609 10 FT17926 Maglevcoilsolder
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Fri Nov 17 2006, 03:58PM
... Registered Member #56 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:02AM
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What is wrong with the one that I posted? Seems to levatate to me...

BTW, I have both a considerable about of pyrolytic graphite and some ssy-1 flashtubes if you are looking wink
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Coronafix
Sat Nov 18 2006, 12:20AM
Coronafix Registered Member #160 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 02:07AM
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Here is the reference to the book I mentioned.

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