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Coyote Wilde
Fri Nov 03 2006, 12:32AM Print
Coyote Wilde Registered Member #175 Joined: Tue Feb 14 2006, 09:32PM
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Right, so... I'm in my first year of university, here at the grand and shiny University of Waterloo, (you've never heard of it; it's Canadian).
I have, for next semester/term/spiggot/whatever, decided to switch my major from physics to engineering-- specifically aerospace. But the school offers two pathways to become an Aerospace Engineer-- one through the department of mechanical engineering, and one via systems engineering. I'm not exactly sure which way to go.
I know Andrew recently went into the industry, and that EVR has been there for some time--and anyone else with a clue can chime in, too.
Which is better? Or, perhaps to phrase it more accurately, what's the difference, and which would be more suited to a geek from 4HV?
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AndrewM
Fri Nov 03 2006, 04:53AM
AndrewM Registered Member #49 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:05AM
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I don't think it makes a lot of difference. On the one hand, theres tremendous demand for systems engineers nowdays, but not all universities offer 'systems' degrees, so theres no real difference in employability. The general feeling I get is that employers value your 'old school' technical competance more than anything; everything else is value added, but not of primary importance. (this assumes you can already communicate and are more or less human)

Everything else being equal, i think it'd be easier to get a systems job with an ME background than to get an ME job with a systems background, which might offer a benchmark of flexibility.

Its worth noting that all the systems people i work with suck.. it might come with the territory, you never know. Just stay out of Quality.

Also Ben is a cog in the wheel too...

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Ben
Fri Nov 03 2006, 04:17PM
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I work with a lot of systems engineers. They had a sub-standard education in my opinion. However they get paid the same amount, and their classes were definitely easier. At my school it was called Industrial Systems Engineering or ISE or It's So Easy. However, I find the subject hideously boring.

Lately I'm being pushed to do more systems engineering at work. From my perspective it should really be called "large complicated project management". I majored in aerospace engineering and in physics, so it's all down to what you want to get out of school.

Lots of partying and boring tedious work = Systems.

Lots of interesting work and less partying = Mechanical (unless you're really smart)
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HV Enthusiast
Sun Nov 05 2006, 01:32AM
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Coyote,

Systems engineering is probably the way to go if you are looking for that particular industry. Unfortunately, in the industry now, the huge push is to outsource both mechanical and electrical engineering, especially among the big corps such as Lockheed, Boeing, NG, Raytheon, etc... and Systems Engineers are in great demand.

Just take a look at some of those employers CAREER OPPORTUNIES listings on their websites and you'll see the vast number of systems engineers needed and very few mechanical or electrical engineers.
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