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Conundrum

Tue Jan 05 2016, 08:02PM

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Hi all.

If anyone hasn't heard. nearly a 3 sigma approx 750GeV particle might have been detected at the LHC.

I noticed a strange coincidence, if you multiply the Higgs mass (around 121GeV) by 2*pi it comes out at around
759 GeV.

Wonder if there is some significance to this?
Also worth noting is that some models of dark matter suggest that the mass of DM filaments could be quite large and
due to clustering within the Earth's gravitational field might be detectable if the tip of the filament brushes the Earth's surface due to solar activity or another cause.

Its also possible that if one of these DM filaments were to hit something metallic enclosing a standing electromagnetic wave then they could cause detectable effects such as a sudden drop in the chamber's Q factor due to the energy being dissipated into the filament instead of the chamber.

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DerAlbi

Tue Jan 05 2016, 08:44PM

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I just cant read about dark matter. For me its a science fiction thats added to reality to make our models fit :-/
I just wonder if thats really the way we should solve things.

Caution: i really do not know anything about that stuff. I just seems wrong to me. We figure out, galaxies behave differen than we predict... we create invisible mass instead of searching for formulas which describe the behavior at large scale with terms that vanish in small scale. I mean.. can the amount of dark matter be predicted or measured? or is it allways just the difference between observation and model?

Conundrum

Tue Jan 05 2016, 08:49PM

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That said, solar axions might solve the corona heating problem.
Its also possible that DM might exist as a particle and a wave but at different energy levels so it could interact strongly at very low and very high energy levels but not intermediate ones.
This supports existing data including anomalous EM signals detected in superconducting Josephon junctions as well as possible signature particles at LHC.
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dexter

Tue Jan 05 2016, 10:07PM

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Conundrum wrote ...

I noticed a strange coincidence, if you multiply the Higgs mass (around 121GeV) by 2*pi it comes out at around
759 GeV.

Wonder if there is some significance to this?

See

1. just numerology without any significance
2. link has nothing to do with the new particle....

Ash Small

Wed Jan 06 2016, 05:20PM

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I consider there to be no difference between dark matter and the Emperor's new clothes as well. Are we simply being asked to replace our faith in God with faith in Einstein?

jdub1581hv

Wed Jan 06 2016, 09:01PM

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I am also skeptical about DM.. I personally feel that 'What' (we aren't seeing) is merely obscured by higher dimensions, hidden behind the folds so to speak. Visually we cannot comprehend a 4D universe, yet we can see traces of the 4th dimension by its shadows..
So why would it not make sense that the very same holds true for DM/DE?
Occam had a razor not a beard..

hen918

Wed Jan 06 2016, 09:38PM

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Alder also had a razor: "If something cannot be settled by experiment or observation then it is not worthy of debate." :)

Uspring

Thu Jan 07 2016, 11:11AM

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DerAlbi wrote:

we create invisible mass instead of searching for formulas which describe the behavior at large scale with terms that vanish in small scale. I mean.. can the amount of dark matter be predicted or measured? or is it allways just the difference between observation and model?

AFAIK DM seems to be lumped around galaxies, if you assume the standard inverse square law to calculate its mass distribution. These lumps have different sizes and shapes and a modification of the inverse square law would have to accommodate for that. One certainly doesn't want a different law of gravitation for each galaxy.
From simulations of the evolution of the universe after the big bang, dark matter seems to be necessary to explain the presently found distributions of galaxies and their clusters. In terms of mass, there seems to be much more DM than visible mass.

DerAlbi

Thu Jan 07 2016, 01:46PM

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It seems to be necessary for our current equation set!
A mathematical system can never proove its own consistency...

Maybe we just need someone like Maxwell who added the small term of displacement current to an allready thought-to be-finished set of equations.

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