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Tubular Heatsinks.

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Patrick
Fri Apr 24 2015, 07:20PM Print
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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Ive been needing more and more heatsinks in a compact area but milling fins or buying them seems expensive.

So im looking at some possible solutions.


1429903209 2431 FT0 Heatsink
These paralled and zigzagged thin walled tubes would be solders together. The strip would then support all of them and the TO-220 or TO-247 case. these tubes could be different in number or zig zagged around other component on a board or case.
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dexter
Fri Apr 24 2015, 07:24PM
dexter Registered Member #42796 Joined: Mon Jan 13 2014, 06:34PM
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so you want to solder copper tubes on a copper plate? i like that
this is cheap but not compact
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Dr. H.
Sat Apr 25 2015, 07:04AM
Dr. H. Registered Member #931 Joined: Mon Jul 30 2007, 05:25PM
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Hi Patrick,

In this configuration, I am not sure how effective the upper tubes will be. The heat to them will be transferred through a thin wall.

Edit: Just an idea - what if you take a block of aluminum, print a pattern and drill it.

Cheer
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Ash Small
Sat Apr 25 2015, 11:53AM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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I share the concerns expressed by others.

I've made my own in the past, and researched this sebject extensively beforehand.

While the maths that manufacturers publish on their websites is debatable, they all agree on certain basic 'rules of thumb'.

What's generally considered best is to mount the pachage on thick material (copper or aluminium), then have branches off this 'thick bit', then have fins on the branches.

Most manufacturers go for thicker branches with more fins nearer the component.

Heatsinks work in two ways, firstly, they conduct the heat away from the component as fast as possible, then they dissipate the heat, pretty obvious really.

I'd mount the tubes longitudinally on the branches, with longer branches nearer the component, if going with your basic idea.

If using copper and tubing, though, I consider rethinking, and maybe adoptong liquid cooling, with the tubes carrying the liquid, certainly something to be considered.

My Mk1 TO3 heatsink consists of a basic 'H' section, with fins. I do have a Mk2 in the pipeline which only consists of five pieces, rather than all the bits of plate clamped together with compound in between.


1428750073 3414 FT1630 Heatsink1



1428750073 3414 FT1630 Heatsink2


These are designed to have two 120mm PC fans, one either end, one sucking and the other blowing, and are a bit 'overkill', but you can see the 'H' section quite clearly. This is the second one I made, with basic hand tools only. The first had a thicker central plate. The whole thing is wrapped and taped when in use.

Needless to say, I've never blown a 2N3055 using one of these.

Soldering copper together does sound like a pretty good idea, though.
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Patrick
Sun Apr 26 2015, 06:21AM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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ok, im also researching the "heat pipe" idea. the passive movement of heat through a pipe interests me. but putting pumps on every tiny circuit i need doesnt appeal to my budget.
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dexter
Sun Apr 26 2015, 09:56AM
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Patrick wrote ...

ok, im also researching the "heat pipe" idea. the passive movement of heat through a pipe interests me. but putting pumps on every tiny circuit i need doesnt appeal to my budget.

aren't heat pipes contain a liquid-gas mixture that evaporate al the hot end and condensate at the cold end thus transferring heat?
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Inducktion
Sun Apr 26 2015, 07:57PM
Inducktion Registered Member #3637 Joined: Fri Jan 21 2011, 11:07PM
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How do laptop heat pipes do it?

I broke one open before and it had this coppery powder in it.
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Experimentonomen
Sun Apr 26 2015, 08:14PM
Experimentonomen Registered Member #941 Joined: Sun Aug 05 2007, 10:09AM
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The copper powder acts as a wick to make the heatpipe work in all directions.
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Patrick
Mon Apr 27 2015, 11:04PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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does the fluid in a heat pipe nead a phase change to work? i was wanting to use alcohol.
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