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Using Igbt at full voltage and current rating

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furnace
Sun Apr 19 2015, 08:13AM Print
furnace Registered Member #4992 Joined: Wed May 23 2012, 03:57PM
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Is there any good manual tuning circuit that I can use to run 1200v 200a Igbts at there full rating for induction heating?
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dexter
Sun Apr 19 2015, 09:31AM
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the voltage rating is the maximum reverse voltage up to which the IGBT survive
when switching inductive loads there will always be kickback higher than the rail voltage even when switching resistive loads there are still stray inductances present so usually a rail voltage of half or in most cases lower that the IGbT rated voltage is used

the current rating is trickier it depends on how fast heat can be moved away from the die and many other factors like hard switching vs soft switching, frequency etc
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furnace
Sun Apr 19 2015, 10:23AM
furnace Registered Member #4992 Joined: Wed May 23 2012, 03:57PM
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What about mosfets? Do they work on this same principle?
I currently have a tank running on 30 to 40khz and would like to pull about 100amp at 400 to 600v.
What would be the best choice for this application?
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GrantX
Mon Apr 20 2015, 02:27PM
GrantX Registered Member #4074 Joined: Mon Aug 29 2011, 06:58AM
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With MOSFETs and IGBTs the ratings are usually the absolute maximums the devices can withstand before failing. A TO-247 package IGBT might be rated for 120A DC collector current at 20 degrees C (or whatever), but if I put one on a heatsink and pass 120A DC through it continuously using an arc welder, it will get extremely hot. Sort of like a car engine: it might make 300 horsepower at 6,500 RPM, but I don't want to drive around town with the motor bouncing off the rev limiter, because that will cause undue heat, stress and wear.

For switching 600V 100A at 40kHz you will be looking for a big brick certainly rated for 1200V, and perhaps 300A or more?
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Ash Small
Mon Apr 20 2015, 03:10PM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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Some IGBT's are specifically designed to be paralleled, specifically ones designed for use in welding inverters.

There are manufacturer's application notes available online which give more detail. One exaple is linked to here: Link2

It mentions such things as using a common heatsink for paralleled devices, etc.
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furnace
Mon Apr 20 2015, 09:18PM
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Isn't it better to start using thyristors for high power switching?
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GrantX
Tue Apr 21 2015, 04:40AM
GrantX Registered Member #4074 Joined: Mon Aug 29 2011, 06:58AM
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furnace wrote ...

Isn't it better to start using thyristors for high power switching?
At low frequencies like 50/60 Hz thyristors are a good choice, but at 30 - 40 kHz you are definitely back in IGBT territory.
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