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Microsoft SDKs are the way to go if you feel like rewriting your own infrastructure every 16 months.
I avoided that by not following the latest fashion. My Visual Studio 6 (Copyright 1994-1998) still spills out useable code. Most of my business life I've written libraries and kernel drivers for Windows with ancient tools. Innovations by MS? Yeah, they are somewhat slow.
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Uspring wrote ...
Carbon Rod wrote:
Microsoft SDKs are the way to go if you feel like rewriting your own infrastructure every 16 months.
I avoided that by not following the latest fashion. My Visual Studio 6 (Copyright 1994-1998) still spills out useable code. Most of my business life I've written libraries and kernel drivers for Windows with ancient tools. Innovations by MS? Yeah, they are somewhat slow.
I am in the oil&gas industry, only stable and production proven equipment, through many years, is being used. When we upgrade a 30 year old system, we upgrade it to a 10 year old system. I am currently doing HMI part of a project in VS6.
The technology moves too fast for certain end users, they only wish for equipment with long life span and 30 years till obsolescence.
I signed up for a kit just to try it out, so far I have never worked with a kit before, besides my homemade ATMega16 dev board :)
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Uspring wrote ...
My Visual Studio 6 (Copyright 1994-1998) still spills out useable code. Most of my business life I've written libraries and kernel drivers for Windows with ancient tools. Innovations by MS? Yeah, they are somewhat slow.
Its funny as VS6 was the last real C++ compiler option MS offered, and I'm surprised the DDK for NT still functions in Win8 given MS gutted many legacy support layers from Win7. nmake was going in the right direction, and indeed a good cmake writer could get truly cross-platform natively compiled and linked optimization scripts. VB and VB.NET is EOL, but numerous MFC DLLs simply no longer exist.
Qt is sometimes an option:
Automated refactoring is often a parse and pray strategy:
..and I'm surprised the DDK for NT still functions in Win8 given MS gutted many legacy support layers from Win7
I did have to rewrite NT drivers for our PCI board due to some missing functions at the time XP came out IIRC. Also undocumented page alignment requirements for DMA buffers occasionally caused headaches. But I have to admit, that I was mostly pleased by the little amount of work that kernel mode support required. Apart from this, Apples OSX kernel API is much nicer.
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