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Induction heater from Instructables, or what determines the current draw?

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Steve Conner
Sat Apr 05 2014, 12:01PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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The cheapest way to get an accurate answer is with a plug-in energy meter like the "Kill-A-Watt". This is an American trade name but similar devices are available worldwide for about $30. The ones I know of all do a proper calculation of real power, taking displacement and harmonic power factors into account.
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Artlav
Wed Apr 09 2014, 08:04PM
Artlav Registered Member #8120 Joined: Thu Nov 15 2012, 06:06PM
Location: Moscow, Russia
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And it is preliminarily complete and able to run at full power.
Haven't tried melting anything yet.
Max attempted run time so far is only 20 seconds at full power, with no signs of heating anywhere but tank capacitors.
Water can test shows 1100W heat output at 284V, 8A (DC) input.
The tuning is somewhat tricky, and i wouldn't trust it near a curie point, but i think i can try getting something red-hot as soon as i get a heat-resistive stand to do it on.

At least try it as far as tank capacitors would survive.

The tank capacitors are getting hot rapidly, from ambient to +40*C in 20 seconds, despite being attached to big piece of 10*C water-cooled copper.
Their leads glow brightly on the thermal camera when on.
1397072103 8120 FT161958 Ih Ir Caps

I guess i'll have to replace them, but the question is - with what?
These are the best i can get, so only way out is to get more of the smaller ones.

Overview:
1397072035 8120 FT161958 Ih Over

Bridge, top.
The IGBT bricks are metal-cold with water cooling, looks like they are quite an overkill for a project this size.
But i had no other use for them.
1397072103 8120 FT161958 Ih Bridge Top

Bridge, side.
The neon bulb is the danger light for the input capacitors.
1397072103 8120 FT161958 Ih Bridge Side

Tank capacitors.
11x0.1uF, 2000V polypropylene.
1397072103 8120 FT161958 Ih Caps

Tank coil.
8 turns, 120mm diameter, 6 mm pipe.
1397072103 8120 FT161958 Ih Coil

Driver circuit.
Instructables-derived TL494 oscillator, Steve ward's N-FET/P-FET IGBT driver.
1397072103 8120 FT161958 Ih Driver

Input and inrush current limiting - precharge through a big resistor for 2 seconds, then flip the power switch.
If you flip the switch at once then as the 3300uF input capacitor fills, the local breaker will pop, the outlet breaker will pop, and the building breaker is likely to pop.
1397072103 8120 FT161958 Ih Input

The cooling system.
The water just circulates in and out of the bucket, enough thermal mass in there for the short tests i do so far.
1397072103 8120 FT161958 Ih Cooling

Bonus: A can in the coil, getting warm and ir-glowy.
Looked much nicer on the camera screen...
1397072103 8120 FT161958 Ih Ir Can

Verdict: The Instructables design can become a dead simple high power induction heater, if you tweak it just right.
But it's a lot of tinkering with not too much hot fun.
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Artlav
Wed Apr 09 2014, 08:26PM
Artlav Registered Member #8120 Joined: Thu Nov 15 2012, 06:06PM
Location: Moscow, Russia
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Speak of the devil.
Just after posting the above i tried to melt a slab of solder.
10 seconds at full power, and the tank capacitors started making cracking sounds, then the breakers blew.

No visible damage, but the frequency is way off. Apparently some of them failed internally.

Hm...
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Ash Small
Wed Apr 09 2014, 10:15PM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
Location: UK
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.....maybe implement PWM power control?......
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Steve Conner
Thu Apr 10 2014, 09:38AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
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Time to look for Celem capacitors on Ebay! smile The tank capacitor is the hardest part of the induction heater to get right.
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IamSmooth
Thu Apr 10 2014, 05:29PM
IamSmooth Registered Member #190 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 12:00AM
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Look at the caps I uses
Very reliable
No failures

However the cost is not cheap and gets close
To that of a celem
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