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Proud Mary
Fri Feb 14 2014, 09:25AM Print
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Scientists believe swarms of robots could help build base on Mars - Link2
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Conundrum
Fri May 16 2014, 04:47AM
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c300,000,000CE.

"Residents of the Utopia plateau on Barsoom were puzzled to find more evidence of possible civilization dating back to well before our own. The recent discovery of what appears to be directed energy weapon drill marks on native rock combined with plutonium 238 dating suggesting enormous age gave more ammunition to the "Young Barsoom" conspiracy theorists.

Prof. Gagravaar Delile, the famous Barsoomian geologist suggests that combined with the recent discovery of metallic objects on a nearby mountain with anomalous isotope ratios this could be proof that thousands of Cycles ago life was seeded from outside Barsoom by some other civilization."
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Uspring
Fri May 16 2014, 09:20AM
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I don't believe, that the rules describing a building constructed by ants can be more complex than the rules programmed into each individual ant. These rules are different, of course, due to swarm interaction.
Too simply programmed robots may well construct something, but that might be utterly useless as a base.
The observation of the "simple" interaction between swarm individuals likely obscures the view at the finer points which are necessary for the establishment of a functional colony.
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Steve Conner
Fri May 16 2014, 11:33AM
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Sounds like a similar process to how a bunch of cells cooperate to form a human being. But then you have to ask yourself, did the egg and sperm that formed Tim Berners-Lee contain the source code for Facebook?

I would say no, the building can be more complex than the rules programmed into the builders, in so far as the system interacts with its environment during the build process and picks up extra state from it.
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Patrick
Sat May 17 2014, 12:49AM
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at what point does the "kill all humans" urge kick in with thee lsittle miracle bots...
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Uspring
Sat May 17 2014, 11:07AM
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A termite colony and the network of cells in Berners-Lees brain have distinct learning capabilities. The colony does respond to environmental stimuli, but I don't think it actually learns building a hive. That skill is a result of their evolution and thus part of their DNA.
Now, if a collection of robots would actually exhibit some intelligence, i.e. learn how to build a martian base, then the construction details wouldn't have to be programmed into the individual. Machine intelligence of that sort is still scifi.
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