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Conundrum

Tue Jan 14 2014, 08:55AM

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Hi..
Seems that a test has been done to see if precognitive "tweets" exist.
So far no positive results, although only two samples have been done.
However the concept of a predestination paradox is intriguing, ie a scientific discovery made possible by an unlikely combination of events ie Newton and the apple.

One thing I did read is that there are a lot of inexplicable coincidences such as Round and Losev inventing SiC electroluminescence nearly independently.

The theory that people with the right neural configuration can come up with the same idea independently at nearly the same time given similar starting information is an intriguing one, and might eventually lead to a "Theory of Mind".

I've experienced this first hand, one of my early ideas to use tantalum in a superconductor (circa 2000) was so novel it took 14 years for it to be rediscovered.
Using a superconducting magnet for aircraft as a way to avoid the need for an oxidiser tank is novel, and inspired by a science video viewed at the time.

Going back in my written notes I've found some interesting stuff indeed, worthy of publication...

-A

Sulaiman

Tue Jan 14 2014, 10:17PM

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I think that simultaneous developments will always seem like coincidence, but most (all?) of these coincidences are due to some new discovery or concept, which will naturally be followed by many researchers in that field, often discoveries (when shared) spur others on or suggest alternative routes.

There must be a study of scientific development which would more clearly explain.

Mads Barnkob

Wed Jan 15 2014, 05:54AM

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Monkies and typewriters? ;)

Dr. Slack

Wed Jan 15 2014, 05:20PM

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I've made a number of inventions, but only because I was asked the right question at the right time. The reason the time for the question was right is that the price or capability of some component X was forecast to cross a threshold in a year or so, or that some radio standards body had published a new spec. Ie a technology push, or a market pull, which is available to everybody globally. So, no coincidence I invented the delta sigma ADC about a year after Phillips and Toshiba did (doh, annoying).

Shrad

Wed Jan 15 2014, 09:44PM

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this is the concept of noosphere, if I recall well

Uspring

Thu Jan 16 2014, 08:35AM

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Papers are rushed to the publishers, patent applications hurried to the patent office and all that because of the very real danger of not being the first. The innovator stands on the shoulders of many others, who have laid the groundwork. Nearly simultaneous inventions are the rule, not the exception.
Sadly the winner takes it all mentality permeates the patent system or rather most of commerce as evidenced e.g. by high speed or insider brokerage.

Andy

Thu Jan 16 2014, 06:53PM

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Hi, I probable think the opposite to you lot, to design say a motor bike by yourself, it would probable take 6-15 general neural links to make a sproket, another 6-15 for the chain drive, that would start to make a large number more so than the population of earth. With the level of detail that needs to be worked out with new inventions now days it would be a low probability that two people came up with the same invention(at the same time won't change the odds).
Most people probable get the info from someone and then passes it off as there own, pretty much don't release something or ask a question if you want to patent something in the future down that path.

My 2cents

Ash Small

Fri Jan 17 2014, 02:29AM

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Andy wrote ...

pretty much don't release something or ask a question if you want to patent something in the future down that path.

My 2cents

Doesn't that approach go against the spirit of an 'open source' forum like this one?

Andy

Fri Jan 17 2014, 02:47AM

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Not really, you don't have to release everything you have, to be called opensource. Something that could put bread on the table I'll hold off with which that sentence was meaning, if you want to don't release a scrap of info, and you will probable be the first.

Tetris

Fri Jan 17 2014, 04:06AM

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I had the idea that "Word Lens" did about three years before they actually launched the concept.

The freaky things happen when I know about shootings before they happen. I swear that I knew about that one shooting in Pennsylvania or Connecticut or something (that happened in May last year) three days before it happened. When I got the news of it... I started freaking out.

And that's not the only time that's happened, haha!

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