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Andy

Fri Jan 03 2014, 10:06PM

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This picture is what I've got so far, but was planning to have say 10 inductor/genny blocks.
The coils will probable be made out of copper if, you can make small coils say 30cm flat pancake and place them next to each other to make a bigger inductor.

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The 0.1H coil was to make high amps at around 5kv, with the series arrangement around 100kv or higher.
The spark chamber idea was to have electrons accelerated into tungsten or copper and give off xrays to charge up a cap bank, the thing I don't get is if the each stage is say 50% xray /electron and the voltage gradient stays the same because of earth, wouldn't that make above 100%, so why want it work

Mattski

Sat Jan 04 2014, 04:01AM

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To be honest I have no idea what's going on in your diagram. Following standard schematic conventions and symbols would help communicate your ideas with others. Some questions:

Can you explain how this circuit is meant to operate?

How is an x-ray supposed to charge up a cap?

It's not at all clear what's going on with this x-ray thing on the right side of your second picture.

The sparkgap on the left is connected to ground on both sides, so it's doing nothing and won't fire.

Triangles are meant to be diodes? Are the ones with 10V labels supposed to be zener diodes (if so they'll short the 240V generator).

In your second picture are the three inductors meant to be coupled (i.e. a transformer)? If so what's the polarity and desired coupling coeffecient (or at least whether air coupled or core coupled)?

Looking at just the first picture which at least makes some sense it looks like you're intending to connect a bunch of electrically floating generators in series and discharge the results into a spark gap of some kind... assuming that's basically correct then series inductance is just going to reduce your current by increasing impedance. You'll need all of the generators turning at the same rate and with proper phasing, which probably means a common shaft to one drive motor, so that shaft will need electrical isolation for the floating generators, which is probably going to require some effort and knowledge to do safely.

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The spark chamber idea was to have electrons accelerated into tungsten or copper and give off xrays to charge up a cap bank, the thing I don't get is if the each stage is say 50% xray /electron and the voltage gradient stays the same because of earth, wouldn't that make above 100%, so why want it work

No idea what you're getting at. 50% of what exactly is "xray/electron"?

Andy

Sat Jan 04 2014, 05:08AM

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The three coils are coupled, with the bottom one in the center of a square made up of 8 coils, the individual coils have a iron center, the depth is about 5cm and the width(still to be worked out) is 90cm,maybe have 26 coils around the oute side 30cm each, connected in series.

The zener diodes are to make roughly square wave ac, with a short polarity switch, if run at 50hz and 1(say 10volt) degree(vi=vmax *sin0), it should be something like 0.001seconds switch)

The sparkgap from ground to ground is meant to allow buildup of voltage(ground large resistance), which gets shorted make a type of boost converter.

The xrays ionize the metal, which is electrical separated from a drain, charging up a cap. A spark starts at the top and travels down untill it hits the first plate, which gives off xrays(at 5kv, might need 30kv), the plate is charged up, the ground removes the charge allowing the arc to hit it again, the gradient is still there and a electrons fly's off the first plate into the second, give off more xrays, rinse and repeat down the stack, with in theory the same number of electrons.

The generators will be bolted together on plastic frame and plastic connection to ground, driving by a wind mill.

The 50% is electrons in the arc discharge to back scattered xrays.

Andy

Mon Jan 06 2014, 05:11AM

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Found a pdf that explains square coils on the same axis

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Simulated the thing, the inductors are 1H and have 15ohm resistance, the zeners are 15volt, the Ui is a neonbulb with strike of 5kv

Andy

Wed Jan 08 2014, 06:04AM

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I was wondering how this circuit works does anyone have a idea, or would it be a bug in ltspice.
The zener is 15volt, the voltage source is dc 20volt 10 ohm esr, and the ac is 20volt 25 hz, the inductors has 10 ohms resistance.

Don't know weather to start a new thread

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