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TC coil idea. Would it work?

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Tigeris
Sun Nov 10 2013, 07:55AM Print
Tigeris Registered Member #1656 Joined: Wed Aug 27 2008, 03:28PM
Location: Pittsburgh PA
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Hey all, I was thinking the other day about how normal transformers work and thought about how it might work with a Tesla Coil.

Here is the basic idea. A smaller coil inside of a larger one. The top of the larger one would run a line down to the bottom of the smaller one. The top of the smaller one would go out to the top load and the larger ones base would be the ground. I added a picture to help explain it a little better.

Lemme know what you think. If it would work or not.
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Sulaiman
Sun Nov 10 2013, 09:49AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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IF you learn how to insulate against TC voltages please let us know how !
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Mads Barnkob
Sun Nov 10 2013, 02:35PM
Mads Barnkob Registered Member #1403 Joined: Tue Mar 18 2008, 06:05PM
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What is your goal with this setup contra a coil that is twice as long but in one layer?

Your problems here is as Sulaiman points out, insulation.

With the wire between the two coils you are having the voltage difference build up over the coil, from start very close to the end, with a potential difference of maybe 150kV this will be very hard to insulate against, unless you have a great distance between the coils and they are submerged in oil or cast in epoxy. So if your first concern was to make a coil shorter to minimize the setup, now you are only left with a coil that is much much wider.

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twist2b
Mon Nov 11 2013, 01:13AM
twist2b Registered Member #2086 Joined: Tue Apr 21 2009, 02:33AM
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I don't remember where but I remember reading about the proximity effect and its influence on Tesla Coil secondaries... Essentially the added resistance increases at the same rate as applying more layers... Even if you did overcome the insulation issue, the proximity effect could make it pointless considering you can just build a larger coil for less hiccups.
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StormInABottle
Tue Nov 12 2013, 07:55AM
StormInABottle Registered Member #9252 Joined: Fri Jan 04 2013, 06:27AM
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Why don't you make a dual coil setup instead?
Anyway as stated above. Insulation would be a problem.
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Chris Cristini
Tue Nov 12 2013, 03:43PM
Chris Cristini Registered Member #1749 Joined: Fri Oct 10 2008, 02:04AM
Location: Claremont New Hampshire
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Doesn't this seem to be something I would try. smile looks like we might have another experimenter that wants to change the way it has been since Tesla's day of glory.
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