If you need assistance, please send an email to forum at 4hv dot org. To ensure your email is not marked as spam, please include the phrase "4hv help" in the subject line. You can also find assistance via IRC, at irc.shadowworld.net, room #hvcomm.
Support 4hv.org!
Donate:
4hv.org is hosted on a dedicated server. Unfortunately, this server costs and we rely on the help of site members to keep 4hv.org running. Please consider donating. We will place your name on the thanks list and you'll be helping to keep 4hv.org alive and free for everyone. Members whose names appear in red bold have donated recently. Green bold denotes those who have recently donated to keep the server carbon neutral.
Special Thanks To:
Aaron Holmes
Aaron Wheeler
Adam Horden
Alan Scrimgeour
Andre
Andrew Haynes
Anonymous000
asabase
Austin Weil
barney
Barry
Bert Hickman
Bill Kukowski
Blitzorn
Brandon Paradelas
Bruce Bowling
BubeeMike
Byong Park
Cesiumsponge
Chris F.
Chris Hooper
Corey Worthington
Derek Woodroffe
Dalus
Dan Strother
Daniel Davis
Daniel Uhrenholt
datasheetarchive
Dave Billington
Dave Marshall
David F.
Dennis Rogers
drelectrix
Dr. John Gudenas
Dr. Spark
E.TexasTesla
eastvoltresearch
Eirik Taylor
Erik Dyakov
Erlend^SE
Finn Hammer
Firebug24k
GalliumMan
Gary Peterson
George Slade
GhostNull
Gordon Mcknight
Graham Armitage
Grant
GreySoul
Henry H
IamSmooth
In memory of Leo Powning
Jacob Cash
James Howells
James Pawson
Jeff Greenfield
Jeff Thomas
Jesse Frost
Jim Mitchell
jlr134
Joe Mastroianni
John Forcina
John Oberg
John Willcutt
Jon Newcomb
klugesmith
Leslie Wright
Lutz Hoffman
Mads Barnkob
Martin King
Mats Karlsson
Matt Gibson
Matthew Guidry
mbd
Michael D'Angelo
Mikkel
mileswaldron
mister_rf
Neil Foster
Nick de Smith
Nick Soroka
nicklenorp
Nik
Norman Stanley
Patrick Coleman
Paul Brodie
Paul Jordan
Paul Montgomery
Ped
Peter Krogen
Peter Terren
PhilGood
Richard Feldman
Robert Bush
Royce Bailey
Scott Fusare
Scott Newman
smiffy
Stella
Steven Busic
Steve Conner
Steve Jones
Steve Ward
Sulaiman
Thomas Coyle
Thomas A. Wallace
Thomas W
Timo
Torch
Ulf Jonsson
vasil
Vaxian
vladi mazzilli
wastehl
Weston
William Kim
William N.
William Stehl
Wesley Venis
The aforementioned have contributed financially to the continuing triumph of 4hv.org. They are deserving of my most heartfelt thanks.
Registered Member #4266
Joined: Fri Dec 16 2011, 03:15AM
Location:
Posts: 874
Below is another try, I'm still working out the cheap way to build the thing that doesn't leak, I'm still waiting for the glue to dry at the bottom, and will pour some down the sides tomorrow. Testing it it was getting 13.7volts / 37cells is 0.37/cell. I've order some Titanium sheet, 0.2mm thick instead of the Stainless steel(one hell of alot cheaper), and are planning on using this one to do some test with. The goal if it works out in a month or two is to have 100 cells with 5mm thick Al and Ti sheet, which should get around 0.7volt/cell. The circuit board in the below picture has 14 50F caps in series with 100kohm resistors to balance the charge, at 3.5F I'll try different duty cycle switch times and load resistance. The test with 1F cap in 1 sec reached 0.09volt with 8 cells, making the resistance per cell about 112ohms(I think), will be trying 1ohm up to 1000ohm. With the circuit board, each 50F cap is connected to 3 cells, which should make the ESR over the cap range 336ohm.
I'm moving farther away from electrical means to melt Fe3O4, if I can electrolysis water into hydrogen and oxygen then recombine it with off the shelf gas cutter tips, use the flame to heat the iron oxide and when hot, add more hydrogen into the mix to displace the oxygen in the iron, would probable be the best way.
EDIT I should get some test data tomorrow, the glue is almost dried.
Registered Member #4266
Joined: Fri Dec 16 2011, 03:15AM
Location:
Posts: 874
Well this was almost a complete failure, the caps when charged to 5.53volt take 1min to drain to 2.05, it then takes 30 mins to reach 3.09volt, it settled at 4.27volt about 12 hours later. The think has leaked thought :) .I think the resiatance per cell worked out to 2.94kohms(It keeps changing.... , don't know weather its the battery or lack of understanding with the capacitor charge/discharge cycle).
Anyway, I'm at a lost of what to do next, apart from different salt combinations, or more battery's in parallel, each cell should be putting out 1 to 0.1watt, and was hoping the scaling of the thing should make a decent long term lead acid battery float, or hydrogen source.
This is the last post from me, unless something majorly improves.
This site is powered by e107, which is released under the GNU GPL License. All work on this site, except where otherwise noted, is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License. By submitting any information to this site, you agree that anything submitted will be so licensed. Please read our Disclaimer and Policies page for information on your rights and responsibilities regarding this site.