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Metal bolt for Toroid Attachment - Your experiences

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HV Enthusiast
Tue Aug 13 2013, 08:09PM Print
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
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I'm just curious if anyone has used a metallic bolt on the top of the secondary to secure their toroids with. I typically use nylon bolts on my assemblies, but was looking for something that would be more reliable in the long run as nylon bolts can tend to brittle with age and easily break.

My concern with conductive hardware is that it could provide a conductive path from the bolt into the center of the secondary.

Anyone have any experiences or failures using conductive hardware in this manner?

Thanks in advanced
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Sigurthr
Wed Aug 14 2013, 12:05AM
Sigurthr Registered Member #4463 Joined: Wed Apr 18 2012, 08:08AM
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I found that standard 1/4-20 Phillips/slot head bolts will cause internal (in reference to the secondary) corona and arcing, but the round head 1/4-20 bolts work just fine with no issues. I even use them as the primary electrical connection from the HV end of the secondary winding to the topload. Just have the round top inside the secondary with the threaded section pointing up and out of the toroid.

If secondary HV lead corona develops due to insulation breakdown I found that you can use a small section of annealed 1/8" copper water pipe as corona suppression. Just place it over the HV lead where it is having corona. Make sure the edges are rounded off and finely sanded though. I have this arrangement on my 3kW CW SSTC.
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Chip Fixes
Wed Aug 14 2013, 01:24AM
Chip Fixes Registered Member #3781 Joined: Sat Mar 26 2011, 02:25AM
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I've also found that if you cover the head of the bolt in sealant or some sort of insulating epoxy, it won't cause arcing.
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HV Enthusiast
Wed Aug 14 2013, 01:26PM
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Thanks for the inputs. I may end up going with a fiberglass bolt which are much stronger than the nylon.
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Steve Conner
Wed Aug 14 2013, 04:23PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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I've always used a metal bolt, but a round-headed carriage bolt, and I don't pierce it right through the plastic disc that seals the top of the secondary. I put it through another disc, or some sort of spacer block, and screw that onto the top of the secondary end disc with nylon bolts.
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Patric
Wed Aug 14 2013, 07:04PM
Patric Registered Member #2899 Joined: Wed Jun 02 2010, 06:31PM
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I do not use any bolt, I use TEC-7, no problems.
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Phillip Slawinski
Fri Aug 16 2013, 01:38PM
Phillip Slawinski Registered Member #1732 Joined: Thu Oct 02 2008, 02:34PM
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I used brass bolts on the secondaries for my DRSSTC V. Link2

I put a copper disc under the acrylic end cap to make the terminal much larger and less likely to cause corona. After the disc was set in I poured in epoxy and completely covered the disc and bolt head. Never had any issues with corona from the top.

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