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rheostat or potienometer as a variable voltage input for sstc?

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teslarevolution
Thu Jun 27 2013, 12:24PM Print
teslarevolution Registered Member #16903 Joined: Thu May 09 2013, 08:00PM
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Hello I am building a solid state musical tesla coil and me and my dad were talking about it and I told him I Would need a ~10 amp 120 volt variac to test and isolate the tesla coil from the mains but the only problem is that they cost in the range of $100 so he says that I could use a potentiometer or rheostat to do the same thing. but a since they work on resistance I would need a 1200 watt rheostat which I don't they even make unless it's custom because on digikey the highest is 811 watt.

so could you use a rheostat to do this

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HV Enthusiast
Thu Jun 27 2013, 02:29PM
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No, you would not want to do this. The potentiometer / rheostat would act like a linear regulator and would be highly inefficient, and depending on resistance, may limit the output current of what you would need. Just purchase the variac. I can also guarantee it will be much cheaper than buying a 1200 Watt rheostat from digikey.

You can get a very inexpensive variac on EBAY for less than $50. There are tons on there.

Here is on example I would look at. This is only a 2A one, but look for a similar model rated for 10A.

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teslarevolution
Thu Jun 27 2013, 03:11PM
teslarevolution Registered Member #16903 Joined: Thu May 09 2013, 08:00PM
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EasternVoltageResearch wrote ...

No, you would not want to do this. The potentiometer / rheostat would act like a linear regulator and would be highly inefficient, and depending on resistance, may limit the output current of what you would need. Just purchase the variac. I can also guarantee it will be much cheaper than buying a 1200 Watt rheostat from digikey.

You can get a very inexpensive variac on EBAY for less than $50. There are tons on there.

Here is on example I would look at. This is only a 2A one, but look for a similar model rated for 10A.

Link2






Thanks alot I told my dad the same exact thing but he doesn't want to believe me
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HV Enthusiast
Thu Jun 27 2013, 06:10PM
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Lets say you want only 50% voltage to the load and your rheostat can support that.
Then you will have 1200Watts being delivered to the load (assuming that the power number is constant) and 1200Watts being dissipated in the rheostat.
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Sulaiman
Thu Jun 27 2013, 06:46PM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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Most things that blow up usually do it
. when power is applied
. when the enable/run/go signal is activated
. when you think you can get just a bit more ... :(
. randomly after running for a while
not much can be done about the third or fourth but
a mains rated filament bulb in series with the mains can reduce or even prevent serious damage/explosions etc.
Once you have the system running then the lamp will be the same as a resistor and full power will not be possible..
but potential costly/embarassing failures will be minimised,
once you are confident then the lamp can be removed and full mains applied.
Ultimate = variac with lamps and a big red STOP button.

P.S. some circuits work perfectly well when mains is 'switched on' at normal supply voltage, but can fail disastrously at certain (random) voltages.
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teravolt
Thu Jun 27 2013, 07:30PM
teravolt Registered Member #195 Joined: Fri Feb 17 2006, 08:27PM
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hear is another one

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PhilGood
Thu Jun 27 2013, 07:39PM
PhilGood Registered Member #3806 Joined: Sat Apr 02 2011, 09:20PM
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teslarevolution wrote ...

...I Would need a ~10 amp 120 volt variac to test and isolate the tesla coil from the mains...
I would like to add that Variacs are autotransformers. Thus, they do not isolate your coil from mains
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Physics Junkie
Thu Jun 27 2013, 08:13PM
Physics Junkie Registered Member #7267 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2012, 12:16AM
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I bought a 10A powerstat by superior electric for $40 on eBay. You shouldn't have to pay more than $50-$60 on a 10A variac.
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