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What about a Mains-Powered ZVS Driver?

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Gabriel35
Tue May 14 2013, 07:55PM Print
Gabriel35 Registered Member #2310 Joined: Wed Aug 19 2009, 08:04PM
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Hey folks, how are you?

I was searching on the net and found this website:

Link2

And the last circuit of this page made me wonder how would it be to make an "Mains-Powered Induction Heater" based on this circuit:

Oszillatoren Html M4cd394a1


Perhaps someone with better knowledge about the subject can give us clues about the possible values of:

- Base resistors of the IGBTs (Probably something around 6.8 Ohm)
- Diodes D1 and D2
- Value of "Dr"
- Value of C2 (Probably a ressonant bank of capacitors if used for Induction Heating)


Probably changing "Tr" with the work-coil of IH it will start heating some bolts, what do you think?


Now wonder how nice would it be... A simple Mains-Powered IH with a few kW of power =D


All credits of the circuit to: J�rg Rehrmann



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Thomas W
Tue May 14 2013, 08:27PM
Thomas W Registered Member #3324 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 06:57PM
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the main problem with this is trying to get IGBTs or MOSFETS with high enough voltage (4x320 = 1280v) and the switching speed would probibly be a fair bit slower + a probible greater RDSon
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Gabriel35
Tue May 14 2013, 08:40PM
Gabriel35 Registered Member #2310 Joined: Wed Aug 19 2009, 08:04PM
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Weah, it would be nice to use 1500V devices like they mentioned on the website at the circuit description...
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Steve Conner
Tue May 14 2013, 09:30PM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
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Vladi Mazzilli's original ZVS did just this, it ran off 230V mains using 1200V IGBTs. BUP314s if I remember right, pretty old slow devices. Google search should turn up the schematic.
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Dr. Dark Current
Tue May 14 2013, 10:00PM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
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Running this driver from 230 volts AC, with 1200V IGBTs, is a really messy thing to do. During random line voltage transients, overvoltages, due to improper design of magnetics or during load transients (breaking of the arc), the collector voltage can easily exceed 1200 volts.

Try these devices instead: Link2 (they are really IGBTs)
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Ash Small
Wed May 15 2013, 09:28AM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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Dr. Dark Current wrote ...

Running this driver from 230 volts AC, with 1200V IGBTs, is a really messy thing to do. During random line voltage transients, overvoltages, due to improper design of magnetics or during load transients (breaking of the arc), the collector voltage can easily exceed 1200 volts.

You get the same problems when 'hacking' inverter microwave power supplies. One solution is an 'isolation transformer' which is ferro-resonant (A conventional microwave oven transformer can be re-wound for this). This 'smoothes' the supply, and prevents transients from getting through.

I think there is another word for it, but I forget.
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Gabriel35
Wed May 15 2013, 12:53PM
Gabriel35 Registered Member #2310 Joined: Wed Aug 19 2009, 08:04PM
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If you have a VARIAC you can play with it too...

I've found some usefull information about the first schematic here:

Link2


The values of the components are there...

Suggestion from Dr. Dark Current are good. For sure isn't a good idea using 1200v devices unless you have a VARIAC...


What about the current limiting on this circuit?

Do you guys think that is a good idea trying to make a IH with this, or the Half-Bridges are still better choices (Thinking about reliability and simplicity)
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