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Steve Conner
Fri May 17 2013, 08:48AM
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No... You can't put a capacitor in parallel with the output of a voltage-source inverter. The output is a square wave, and the capacitor presents a short circuit to the harmonics. The capacitor and maybe the IGBTs will suffer huge losses and maybe blow up.

To get resonant operation, you have to use a series capacitor like in a DRSSTC. The parallel capacitor is for current-source inverters like the ZVS.

Before messing with capacitors, I'd try increasing the coupling by moving the primary to the same core leg as the secondary.
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RateReducer
Sun May 19 2013, 02:45PM
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Oh... Thats true Steve! ^^

I want to use this inverter for a QCW VTTC.
µC generates the signal, half bridge powers the flyback -> voltage ramp at the output!
Should work fine for powerful pulses - i got 10.000µF smoothing xD

But i am not sure about the signal. How does it have to look like?
Some kind of PWM with increasing duty cycle?
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Steve Conner
Sun May 19 2013, 03:28PM
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You need bipolar PWM. Like regular ("unipolar") PWM but every other pulse goes negative instead of positive. This allows modulation of the duty cycle without introducing a DC component to the signal.

The TL494 and SG3525 both support bipolar PWM. To generate it yourself, you normally use a full-bridge driver made of two gate drive ICs. The "off" portions of the waveform are made by switching both gate drivers to the same state, forcing the GDT primary voltage to zero. You may have a problem with this, if you used an intermediate bridge itself driven by a GDT.
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RateReducer
Sun May 19 2013, 04:22PM
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Steve Conner wrote ...

You need bipolar PWM. Like regular ("unipolar") PWM but every other pulse goes negative instead of positive. This allows modulation of the duty cycle without introducing a DC component to the signal.

Thanks a lot Steve!
Perfectly explained. Okay, bipolar PWM.
Something like this:

Adsit9

Push pull operation.
Looks good :)

But i think it would be easier not to use a GDT but drive the gates directly with 2 galvanically isolated gate drivers instead...?
How can i instruct the TL494 to ramp up the duty cycle?

EDIT: I think i found a circuit that i could use...?
Link2



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Steve Conner
Sun May 19 2013, 08:52PM
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I don't see how that circuit can work. The TL494 is configured for bipolar PWM, but in this case it's driving a buck converter, which needs unipolar PWM. (The DC component of the PWM is actually the desired output.)

So I don't think it can work as it is, but it would work fine driving your transformer. smile
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RateReducer
Mon May 20 2013, 10:14AM
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Okay thats fine! smile
I also did not understand the circuit part with the buck converter...
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RateReducer
Mon May 20 2013, 07:45PM
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I found a similar version of this circuit here Link2
But the part withe the feedback...?
It will not work with my transformer. Is there a other possibility to drive the transformer to get a QCW waveform?
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Newton Brawn
Tue May 21 2013, 02:13AM
Newton Brawn Registered Member #3343 Joined: Thu Oct 21 2010, 04:06PM
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Hi !

Do you mind I make a suggestion ?

Prepare a new secondary coil with 600 turns 0,3mm wire on a 5cm pipe,

Move the 10 turns primary coil to the midle of the "U",

Install thre new secondary 600turns coil in the core,


Connect the old coil in series with the new one.

Probably all transformer is to be oil emerged.

Revise the connections and turn on ...






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Steve Conner
Tue May 21 2013, 12:28PM
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You can take feedback from the high voltage DC output, just use a big HV resistor in the divider. As far as the control loop is concerned, it doesn't make a huge difference.
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MR-ZAPPY
Wed May 22 2013, 02:24PM
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Could you post a schematic for me? I would like to build one
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