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Conundrum

Tue May 07 2013, 06:21AM

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Discuss.

Obviously there are implications for the future of 3D printing if the Government takes action.

Interestingly, the latest idea for this is as a pest control device for Third World countries if modified to fire plastic pellets
using solar electrolysed water rather than bullets.
Shouldn't hurt people but would work very well against small rodents or other pest species without the need for expensive
materials.

Carbon_Rod

Tue May 07 2013, 07:14AM

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People that call weapons a â€œtoolâ€ do not have civilized societies in mind, but rather a delusional notion of what personal responsibility entails. Anarchy as infrastructure is impossible to sustain, and true political power will bleed this ignorant kid dry when his "15 minutes of fame" are up. The legal system has a very long memory of those who engage in these types of antisocial antics, and laws get changed everyday....

Large caliber cannons and side arms are made in mud huts every day, and from a technical point of view this technology only lowers the skill level and safety of the craft below third world standards. It looks like a â€œZip gunâ€ some inmate made in a prison.

Houdini0118

Tue May 07 2013, 09:37AM

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Because no one uses guns as a tool for hunting their food or anything.

2Spoons

Tue May 07 2013, 10:19PM

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You can bet that the first person to be injured by a 3d printed gun will attempt to sue this guy into oblivion.
While I admire the engineering effort that went into designing a printable gun, releasing the plans to the internet is irresponsible. Frankly proving that it is possible should be enough - if others want to go to the effort of replicating this work, then fine. Just don't spoonfeed the kewls.

"Because no one uses guns as a tool for hunting their food or anything." this is irrelevant - a hunting rifle is a completely different beast compared to this single shot pistol.

Houdini0118

Wed May 08 2013, 12:48AM

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So for only 10 grand you can get a printer and print a gun that can shoot a single .22? You can get better guns easily for a lot less. If you look at some rebel armies they make guns out of pipes and what not that are fully automatic and not very hard to make.

Bored Chemist

Thu May 09 2013, 06:23PM

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Houdini0118 wrote ...

Because no one uses guns as a tool for hunting their food or anything.

No, but nobody who spends that much on a 3D printer needs to hunt for food.

Physics Junkie

Thu May 09 2013, 07:49PM

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More of a concern would be a convicted felon/person(s) not legally allowed to own a firearm using a 3D printer to cut that corner. Also, using a 3D printer to manufacture a lower receiver of automatic weapons is an area of concern. Yes, it is against federal law, but people will still try to do it.

HV Enthusiast

Thu May 09 2013, 09:26PM

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Physics Junkie wrote ...

More of a concern would be a convicted felon/person(s) not legally allowed to own a firearm using a 3D printer to cut that corner. Also, using a 3D printer to manufacture a lower receiver of automatic weapons is an area of concern. Yes, it is against federal law, but people will still try to do it.

That's really not a concern. A convicted felon isn't going to go through the trouble to purchasing a 3D printer, learning how to use it, and printing out a firearm that really doesn't that reliably to begin with. The convicted felon is simply going to go the local street corner in your nearest city of choice and purchase one off the street for a fraction of the price and with none of the technological hassle.

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Also, using a 3D printer to manufacture a lower receiver of automatic weapons is an area of concern.

Again, this really isn't a concern. Firstly, consumer available 3D printers still cannot print metal, and to make your own receiver is so much easier than having to go through the technological hassle to make on a 3D printer. Take an AK47 for example. Just cut yourself a piece of sheet metal, drill some holes with a drill press using the readily available templates on the internet, bend it, harden it, and voila you have a fully automatic AK47 lower receiver.

Physics Junkie

Fri May 10 2013, 12:33AM

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Ak47 is one thing. Buying automatic weapons off your "local street corner in your nearest city of choice" is easier said than done. I doubt you can get military grade lower receivers off "your local street corner" lol. I certainly don't know any where around where I live that you can go to the street corner and buy any guns... however, making a 3D printed lower receiver and then buying top grade parts to finish the weapon is more probable. Ak47 are cheap, M16's are not. 3D printers are much cheaper than an M16. Saying that a convicted felon isn't going to go through the hastle is a misjudgement. Just because they are a criminal does not mean they are not capable of using a 3D printer... what if the person wants to manufacture a lot of pieces? What if they want to do it to prove a point, like the guy from article in the top post. Recently here in MI a 18 year old kid was walking around the city with an M1(high power military rifle) strapped on his back to prove a point, whatever point that is not clear.. just saying. You never know whatÂ lengths people will go to given their circumstance to prove a point. Furthermore, I'm not concerned that the average DIY guy is going to use a 3D printer to make his replica M240B into a fully functioning weapon for evil intentions. I am concerned about the people with bad intentions, criminal or not.

Houdini0118

Fri May 10 2013, 01:52AM

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Convicted felons know that kind of stuff. If there is a lot of gang activity in the area its often quite easy.

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