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Dr. Slack
Wed Apr 17 2013, 12:35PM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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By my math I should be able to just change the timing capacitor to 7uF with no other changes and correct for the mistake, and still be very close to my 4hr mark (within a few minutes iirc). I'll just need a good way of hitting 7uF, an uncommon value. I'm thinking either 2x 3.3uF + a 0.47uF all in parallel.

Way too hard. Just whack in whatever 6.8uF, or 10uF, or 4.7uF you have to hand, and then muck about with a resistor or two based on what time you actually get. This is on the basis that capacitors tend to be large, and uncommon in a junk box, whereas resistors are small cheap, good tolerance and more common.Check the timing on the oscillator output so you don't have to wait too long.
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Sigurthr
Thu May 02 2013, 04:14AM
Sigurthr Registered Member #4463 Joined: Wed Apr 18 2012, 08:08AM
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I finally built the circuit (on breadboard) and I used a 0.1uF Ct for a total count down time period of 3min 42sec. I tested it out with a stopwatch and it came to 3min 34sec, which allowing for the wide tolerances on the cap and timing resistors works out just fine. The binary multi-led display is pretty cool looking as well and works great. Thank you all for the massive help! I'll give it a try with the full value capacitors for the 4hr test and report back how it goes - I'm not expecting any issues as long as the oscillator will run well at the 0.57Hz mark.

UPDATE:
I did the full term test and it ended one hour early. I checked the R and C values with my meter and they were all within spec. By using the formula for the internal oscillator and inputting the observed total counting period I was able to get the effective value of R out: a mere 75kOhms! Now, I measured the resistors to be 98kOhms but perhaps when combined with internal resistances in the IC some sort of R network forms lowering the effective resistance. I then recalculated how much capacitance would be needed to correct for the error and re-ran the test. Success! The timer counted down for 3hrs 58min. Now just to migrate from breadboard to PCB and build the unit.
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HV Enthusiast
Mon Jun 03 2013, 02:51PM
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UPDATE:

Sorry its been awhile, but i found a timer that will work for you. Found it in a new LT catalog while stting on the throne at work.

Linear Tech TimerBox Long Timer / Low Frequency
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This will do the job!
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Dr. Slack
Mon Jun 03 2013, 05:46PM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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EasternVoltageResearch wrote ...

UPDATE:

Sorry its been awhile, but i found a timer that will work for you. Found it in a new LT catalog while sitting on the throne at work.

Linear Tech TimerBox Long Timer / Low Frequency
Link2

This will do the job!


Neat way to save a few package pins !
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