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Atomic
Thu Feb 14 2013, 12:59AM Print
Atomic Registered Member #8743 Joined: Thu Dec 13 2012, 04:18PM
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I never quite understood why everyone uses MOSFETs/IGBTs rated for the full bus voltage on half-bridge (DR)SSTCs. Theorethically the voltage divider caps should make sure the transistors only see half the bus voltage, right?

If that were the case I could feed a half-bridge of IRFP260Ns (200V) with a voltage doubled bus at 340V and each of them would only see 170V... would that work or am I missing something?

The voltage divider caps should also see only half the bus voltage, which would make 250V caps OK for use on such bridge...
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ScotchTapeLord
Thu Feb 14 2013, 02:24AM
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When one switch turns on, the other one sees the full supply voltage. A bridge's voltage is limited by a single switch.
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Ben Solon
Thu Feb 14 2013, 03:33AM
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ScotchTapeLord wrote ...

When one switch turns on, the other one sees the full supply voltage. A bridge's voltage is limited by a single switch.

Stl is correct. While the potential across the load is half the full voltage, that's not the only potentially available path to ground for the bridge +(or inverse). Vb volts across a bridge where one of the two igbts is closed results in Vb-Vce across the other.
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Atomic
Fri Feb 15 2013, 08:27PM
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Thanks, I should have seen that.

The voltage divider caps see only half the voltage all the time, right?

A somewhat related question: on a DRSSTC the primary cap/MMC is always rated for a voltage much higher than the IGBTs, usually on the thousands of volts. From what I understand that's due to resonant rise... but doesn't that voltage show up on the IGBTs and divider/snubber caps?
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Gregory
Sun Feb 17 2013, 04:22PM
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No because at the primary will be a voltage that nulls the total series voltage
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Mads Barnkob
Sun Feb 17 2013, 07:13PM
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Atomic wrote ...

A somewhat related question: on a DRSSTC the primary cap/MMC is always rated for a voltage much higher than the IGBTs, usually on the thousands of volts. From what I understand that's due to resonant rise... but doesn't that voltage show up on the IGBTs and divider/snubber caps?

The switches only feed energy to the RLC circuit that the primary and its capacitor really is, with its very low resistance the current rings up rapidly and thereby a much higher voltage is seen by the primary capacitor. As this current only flows between the primary coil and primary capacitor, only some transients are seen by the switches and that is why you have snubber capacitors, TVS diodes etc.
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Atomic
Sun Feb 17 2013, 11:22PM
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Thanks, guys!
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