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ZakWolf
Thu Feb 07 2013, 06:50PM Print
ZakWolf Registered Member #3114 Joined: Sat Aug 14 2010, 08:33AM
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I don’t want to divulge what I’m making (I will share later), but it consists of a flyback core and magnet wire. The wire I am using is getting really hot (current). Can i put a resistor on the output of the hv side?!? Will that help anything or will the current be dissipated as heat in the resistor. If it will work what wattage and resistance would I be looking for (ohms or kohms)? I am not concerned with a specific current just a lesser one.

thanks
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Daedronus
Thu Feb 07 2013, 07:08PM
Daedronus Registered Member #2329 Joined: Tue Sept 01 2009, 08:25AM
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why not reduce the drive duty cycle?
that will be the method with the least losses to reduce the current.
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Ash Small
Thu Feb 07 2013, 07:09PM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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I think we may need a bit more information before we can help, ie a 'standard' flyback puts out a few mA at most and I use suppressed automotive spark plug lead as resistors.

What are you driving? what is the output current and voltage?
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StormInABottle
Thu Feb 07 2013, 07:09PM
StormInABottle Registered Member #9252 Joined: Fri Jan 04 2013, 06:27AM
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Well. The resistors should have the voltage rating of that thing your making. And i actually bet that won't work. to decrease current.. well i cannot be sure what i will be talking about as i do not know what your doing. But i bet its winding a home made flyback. I know you made a 3000 turns one before :D so if it is a flyback. To decrease heat. Increase windings. So less current but more voltage. Or just give it less input. or make it oil cooled. :D..
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Andre
Thu Feb 07 2013, 07:27PM
Andre Registered Member #6921 Joined: Wed Sept 26 2012, 07:47PM
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ZakWolf increase your driving frequency
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ZakWolf
Thu Feb 07 2013, 10:43PM
ZakWolf Registered Member #3114 Joined: Sat Aug 14 2010, 08:33AM
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I am using the standard beefy ZVS flyback driver. Input is 44v and the secondary is getting way to hot. the arcs are flaming and are about 5 inches
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Antonio
Thu Feb 07 2013, 10:59PM
Antonio Registered Member #834 Joined: Tue Jun 12 2007, 10:57PM
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A resistor in series with the arc will reduce the power dissipation. How much is needed is difficult to determine without more data, but let's suppose that the output voltage is 10 kV and the arc is draining 10 mA. This corresponds to an effective load resistance of 1 Mohm. If you add 1 Mohm of resistance, the current will be reduced to 5 mA, supposing that everything is linear and that the voltage doesn't rise. The resistor will dissipate 5 kV x 5 mA = 25 W. Use a series association of several physically long resistors.
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ZakWolf
Fri Feb 08 2013, 05:35AM
ZakWolf Registered Member #3114 Joined: Sat Aug 14 2010, 08:33AM
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Antonio wrote ...

A resistor in series with the arc will reduce the power dissipation. How much is needed is difficult to determine without more data, but let's suppose that the output voltage is 10 kV and the arc is draining 10 mA. This corresponds to an effective load resistance of 1 Mohm. If you add 1 Mohm of resistance, the current will be reduced to 5 mA, supposing that everything is linear and that the voltage doesn't rise. The resistor will dissipate 5 kV x 5 mA = 25 W. Use a series association of several physically long resistors.
thanks Antonio
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