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TBH while the plasma confinement is quite interesting and maybe useful what part of this is new science? Most of the video is resumed to "this looks a bit like this...."
The only thing that seems remotely connected is the mass ejection from quasars.
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Looks like an AC excited dual "Kanal Ray" tube to me.
The inter-electrode gap, at the pressure run, is such that the negative glow mostly fills it on each half cycle. The electrode profile tends to give a e-field concentration in the center, hence the appearance of confinement. Ion beams ("Kanal Rays")are clearly visible being projected from the central holes.
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Interesting.
I never did hear if the LDX folks ever managed to get their beast working, seems that the problem is keeping the coils cold for extended periods.
One big annoyance with the Farnsworth device is that when it does break down (which it will) the inner grid tend to melt. Even the more recent WBx (WB7?) variant had similar issues, with the magnets breaking down under the enormous currents and voltages needed.
Perhaps they need to use a Tesla Coil-like arrangement and resonate the outer coils as a single unit so that at the peaks the fields all align. This could be powered from outside without so many feed-throughs being needed and fine tuning done via switched capacitor MEMS.
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The second video was really interesting concerning the flip ring, choke ring, and containment sphere. I thought that at least some coil gunners would be excited by this. The observed phenomena in regards to the laboratory experiments makes a convincing argument.
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The first video is very cranky, but the second video explains some real physics stuff, but then dives off deep into crank land again.
'This is why there's a vacuum in space...' um... no?
Nice pics observations on plasma shapes, that bits true, but he's gone wayyyy off the deep end when he over applies it.
Actually, to get these kind of shapes I don't know you need a bowl shape, AFAIK any disk-like magnet with a hole in it has this kind of effect; the hole acts as if it's a magnet of the opposite polarity.
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Can you supply some examples of "cranky" and "wayyyy off the deep end"? I would also like to see a disk shaped magnet achieve these effects if you have any vids.
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Well, um.. in the first video there was an explanation that bowl-shaped magnets were related to various buildings that had absolutely no relation AT ALL.
Like St Paul's cathedral, and the Parthenon.
They specifically are NOT made of magnetic material, they aren't shaped like that to have any influence on plasmas, they're shaped like that because that shape is strong, like an egg is strong, and it permits a wide-open space underneath, and they have a sky-light at the top, because... simply it lets in the light.
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