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Teiknethal
Wed Feb 06 2013, 08:35AM Print
Teiknethal Registered Member #10037 Joined: Tue Feb 05 2013, 06:45PM
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 4
Greetings!

I have been lurking these forums for about a month now, initially glancing at some flyback driver schematics but the thought of making a tesla coil was more appealing. So here I am, in need of some assistance. At some point today (the day I planned on coating it with varnish, of all days...) I must have set my coil down in the wrong place, unbeknownst to me. I seemed to have placed a "dent" across 6 of my windings on my secondary coil. When I use a magnifying glass it seems like there is a bit of enamel scraped off in the cavity. Is the damage great enough to cause a failure on the secondary coil? And if so is it at all possible to fix it? The rest of my enameled wire went into the coil and I don't have the ability to pick up anymore anytime soon, otherwise I would just roll a new one and scrap the wire for some smaller experiments.

For scale, in the second picture the coil goes from ~1.25 in. to ~17.25 in. and the wire is 28 AWG.

Thanks in advanced!
TJ
1360139620 10037 FT0 Damage

1360139620 10037 FT0 Damage2
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Physics Junkie
Wed Feb 06 2013, 11:34AM
Physics Junkie Registered Member #7267 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2012, 12:16AM
Location: Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 407
Well, you definitely don't want the windings to come in contact with each other where the enamel has been scraped off. I cant really tell for sure but it looks like they are not touching. This wont necessarily cause a failure, But it could very well effect performance of the coil. Since you can't wind a new one, what I would do is just put extra extra varnish on it and really make sure it is coated extra well because now that spot will be prone to corona and you don't want racing sparks to form. So just insulate it heavily with enamel/varnish and you should be good as new.
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Dr. Dark Current
Wed Feb 06 2013, 11:52AM
Dr. Dark Current Registered Member #152 Joined: Sun Feb 12 2006, 03:36PM
Location: Czech Rep.
Posts: 3384
Yes put some more varnish over it, it will most likely work well.
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Kizmo
Wed Feb 06 2013, 01:06PM
Kizmo Registered Member #599 Joined: Thu Mar 22 2007, 07:40PM
Location: Northern Finland, Rovaniemi
Posts: 624
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Its not the end of the world.. tesla secondaries are tough bastards :)
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Teiknethal
Wed Feb 06 2013, 05:55PM
Teiknethal Registered Member #10037 Joined: Tue Feb 05 2013, 06:45PM
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 4
Kizmo wrote ...

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Its not the end of the world.. tesla secondaries are tough bastards :)

And suddenly I am no longer worried about my coil, lol! That is impressive it still works so well.

Thank you all for the assistance!
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Goodchild
Thu Feb 07 2013, 06:57AM
Goodchild Registered Member #2292 Joined: Fri Aug 14 2009, 05:33PM
Location: The Wild West AKA Arizona
Posts: 795
It was said before but I will say it again secondaries will take a lot of abuse!

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after fixing it works better than it did before

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Dr. Brownout
Sun Feb 10 2013, 01:53AM
Dr. Brownout Registered Member #2405 Joined: Fri Oct 02 2009, 12:59AM
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 140
Yep they can take a beating, here are some pictures of one of my 9" diameter coils after being stored in the garage during cool nights and accumulated a bunch of moisture in the coil. However after a little rework it was working good as new again.
1360461223 2405 FT150304 Burntbaseplate

1360461223 2405 FT150304 Burntsecondary

1360461223 2405 FT150304 After Repair


Here is a video. The coil is on low power less than 1KW because of the volume. It was getting late and I didnt want to get the neighbors all worked up just yet...:)

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