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Intra
Mon Jan 28 2013, 06:57PM Print
Intra Registered Member #2694 Joined: Mon Feb 22 2010, 11:52PM
Location: Russia, Volgograd (Stalingrad).
Posts: 97
Hi, guys.
Need your help. Who knows autorouter with good autoplacement, that will analyse first a shortest signal route's path between all parts? I know diptrace, but it just put parts in square form and after that make a holy bunch of looong routes.
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2Spoons
Mon Jan 28 2013, 08:59PM
2Spoons Registered Member #2939 Joined: Fri Jun 25 2010, 04:25AM
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Posts: 615
I have yet to find an autorouter that I liked - they all seem to make a huge mess.
Proper placement and routing requires understanding of the circuit and how it functions - it is not just a 'join the dots' process.
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Dr. Slack
Tue Jan 29 2013, 08:10AM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
Location: UK St. Albans
Posts: 1659
The important thing is that in some designs, connecting wires are components, and in some they aren't. An autorouter can only infer wires, not components.

In an RF circuit, low noise audio, or medium or high speed logic, long wires are inductors, shared grounds are mutual coupling points, parallel tracks are capacitors or transformers. There's no way an autorouter can do the sensible things with those.
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Steve Conner
Tue Jan 29 2013, 09:18AM
Steve Conner Registered Member #30 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 10:52AM
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
Posts: 6706
Autorouter advice: Don't use one tongue
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Physics Junkie
Tue Jan 29 2013, 01:06PM
Physics Junkie Registered Member #7267 Joined: Tue Oct 16 2012, 12:16AM
Location: Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 407
Steve Conner wrote ...

Autorouter advice: Don't use one tongue
I very much agree here. If you want something done right, route it yourself and use ratsnest
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Josh Campbell
Tue Jan 29 2013, 07:38PM
Josh Campbell Registered Member #5258 Joined: Sun Jun 10 2012, 10:15PM
Location: Missouri - USA
Posts: 119
Another vote for not using an auto-router, no good will come of it.
The closest thing to auto-routing that is worth anything is a "follow me" function that routes and inserts vias, etc on it's own as you trace out the path for it to follow.

If you must use an auto-router (laziness, not caring about signal layout, etc) at least set up classes if your program supports them. This allows you to define parameters for each signal class such as clearance and trace width to name a few.
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macona
Thu Jan 31 2013, 10:23AM
macona Registered Member #3272 Joined: Mon Oct 04 2010, 11:40PM
Location: Beaverton, OR
Posts: 101
I have EasyPC and the auto-router works really well. I have never had a rats nest issue with the output.
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