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Ash Small
Fri Jan 25 2013, 06:57PM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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This is the circuit I intend to try:


1359140272 3414 FT149699 Snubber


I'm planning on trying ~250uF-450uF, and a fast diode. All the resistor has to do is discharge the cap between spikes. It should have negligible affect on the rest of the circuit, as far as I can see, if it's value is reasonably high, but I haven't built it and 'scoped it yet.

I've not tried it yet, but I plan to as soon as I finish the project currently on my breadboard.

Any comments from other forum members will be most welcome.

EDIT: I'm actually going to use it with a single transistor circuit. I'm not sure whether the two transistor circuit would benefit from a freewheeling diode. I don't think it serves any purpose with a centre tapped primary, but unless I build it and 'scope it I can't be certain.
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Ash Small
Sat Jan 26 2013, 01:40PM
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Ruskie wrote ...

With the first 3055 set I replaced, I did notice that there was a difference in gain- only about 60% of the original set. That set didn't last long.

Sounds like they possibly weren't fully turning on, but the gain can vary quite a lot from one set to another. Have you tried 'scoping accross C and E on the latest set of 2N3055's to check for spikes?

Maybe try shielding the cable from the multiplier to the head? (just a guess)

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Ruskie
Sat Jan 26 2013, 01:57PM
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Ash Small wrote ...


...Have you tried 'scoping accross C and E on the latest set of 2N3055's to check for spikes?

Maybe try shielding the cable from the multiplier to the head? (just a guess)

Can't do as I don't own a scope. The only shielding the HV lead has at present is a layer of vinyl over it (this is in addition, of course, to the insulation already present on a HV multiplier lead).
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Ash Small
Sat Jan 26 2013, 03:38PM
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Ruskie wrote ...

Can't do as I don't own a scope.

Well, you could measure the accumulated voltage accross the transistor by removing the resistor from the snubber circuit I posted above, and seeing what voltage the capacitor charges to over time, but I'd recommend adding a resistor in series with the diode, and using a smaller value resistor. You won't be able to see if the diode is fast enough without a 'scope, but you could just try using the fastest you can get.

I paid £20 each for my 'scopes, I have two. get one from Ebay, or somewhere, one designed for fixing TV's will be fine. There are loads on the surplus market, or buy a new cheap digital USB one. (Personally I'd go for an old analogue one)
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Tony Matt
Sat Jan 26 2013, 08:47PM
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Hi Ash !

Let me know what software you have used to make the diagram

Thanks
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Ash Small
Sun Jan 27 2013, 01:23AM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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Tony Matt wrote ...

Hi Ash !

Let me know what software you have used to make the diagram

Thanks


A twenty year old version of TurboCad. Any CAD software should do it, though. It only took me a couple of minutes. I usually spend a bit more time on them to get them a bit neater.
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Ruskie
Sun Jan 27 2013, 04:41PM
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klugesmith
Mon Jan 28 2013, 08:10AM
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Ruskie wrote ...
. What I might do in a pinch to save these transistors is put a light bulb in series on the input AC line. I noticed the other day that a 100 watt bulb was close and wouldn't let voltage/ current go any higher after a certain point, so I think 150-200 W bulb will work..... for now. Of course, I have to cover the bright monstrosity since it will defeat my point of camera capturing x-rays from the screen.
Instead of investing in uncommonly high-wattage lamps (with regular screw base?),
how about wiring two or three sockets in parallel? Then with an assortment of various wattage lamps, you can finely tune your ballast.

Especially if your primary interest is in radiography, and that your first adequate HV power solution will be your last.
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Ruskie
Mon Jan 28 2013, 01:18PM
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