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BigBad
Mon Jan 21 2013, 04:18PM
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IRC you need negative energy matter to do this; this is different to antimatter, which is negative/oppositely charged matter.

The antimatter is just used as a power source; theoretically other sources could also be used.
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Conundrum
Wed Jan 23 2013, 11:43PM
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Indeed.
What I am discussing is ways to convert antimatter (which exists) into exotic matter which is essentially a form of matter which induces a negative spacetime curvature.
It reacts like antimatter with normal matter but it is unlikely to encounter it due to the opposite gravitational potential.

Think of two opposing magnetic poles...
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Uspring
Thu Jan 24 2013, 10:21AM
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When discussing FTL drives I keep wondering about how that reconciles with special relativity. Once you have an FTL drive, you can construct a time machine with it, which allows travel backwards in time. That leads to all kinds of puzzles, e.g. the grandfather paradoxon. How can this work?

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Conundrum
Fri Jan 25 2013, 07:04PM
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Not always. The current consensus is that a closed timelike curve is actually a bridge to a parallel Universe where the actions caused already happened by chance.
This neatly sidesteps the grandfather paradox, Prof. Hawking actually supports the multiverse theory...
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Uspring
Mon Jan 28 2013, 11:35AM
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Not being too knowledgeable on this topic I googled around but couldn't find anything explaining your statement. Maybe you can supply a link.
My own thought to this is, that a transfer to a parallel universe with a different kind of history is a scary prospect to a would be FTL traveller.

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Josh Campbell
Mon Jan 28 2013, 03:24PM
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Anything is possible if you have enough energy.


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BigBad
Mon Jan 28 2013, 04:03PM
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Conundrum wrote ...

Not always. The current consensus is that a closed timelike curve is actually a bridge to a parallel Universe where the actions caused already happened by chance
I have never heard of that [citation needed].
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Conundrum
Thu Jan 31 2013, 08:14AM
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Google "Novikov self consistency principle" and "Hawking chronology protection conjecture" smile

Also, one posited explanation for the nature of antimatter is that it is in fact normal matter with a reversed arrow of time, so annihilation is actually an itty bitty paradox.

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Uspring
Thu Jan 31 2013, 11:51AM
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A quote from the Wikipedia article on the Novikov consistency principle:

"The Novikov consistency principle assumes certain conditions about what sort of time travel is possible. Specifically, it assumes either that there is only one timeline, or that any alternative timelines (such as those postulated by the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics) are not accessible."

The first line of Wikis article on the Hawking chronology protection conjecture is:

"The chronology protection conjecture is a conjecture by the physicist Professor Stephen Hawking that the laws of physics are such as to prevent time travel on all but sub-microscopic scales."

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Steve Conner
Thu Jan 31 2013, 12:25PM
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I invoke the Conner sanity protection conjecture: Conundrum has lost it. :D Either that or he travelled back in time to destroy his own lab notes.
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