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how to detect 500vdc using opto coupler

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indheat lover
Mon Dec 24 2012, 04:36PM Print
indheat lover Registered Member #4619 Joined: Thu Apr 26 2012, 02:47PM
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hi
can anybody help me how to detect 500vdc using an optocoupler??
thanks
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Steve Conner
Mon Dec 24 2012, 06:36PM
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Yes, simply put a bigass resistor (say 100k, 5w) in series with the LED and connect it across the 500V source.

If you need more accuracy, add some Zener diodes or a TL431.
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indheat lover
Wed Dec 26 2012, 03:31PM
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IT WORKS!.THANK YOU A LOT STEVE.;-)
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ScotchTapeLord
Thu Dec 27 2012, 08:09PM
ScotchTapeLord Registered Member #1875 Joined: Sun Dec 21 2008, 06:36PM
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Wouldn't it be nice if every issue thread worked out like this?
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ConKbot of Doom
Wed Jan 02 2013, 03:20PM
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If your voltage varies and you need a wide input range, you can also use a depletion mode mosfet current source with something like a IXTP08N100D2 mosfet. The SOA looks like its good for 30mA drain current all the way upto 1kV.

The drain connects to your +500v, you put a variable resistor in series with the source, and connect the gate to the other end of the variable resistor. The opto isolator is fed from the gate/resistor junction also.

As your voltage rises, current flows though the fet/resistor/diode, and voltage is dropped across the resistor, biasing the gate below the source, partially turning off the mosfet, biasing it into a relatively constant-current reigion of operation. Use figure 4 in the datasheet ( Link2 ) figure out what current range your opto needs, pick pot/variable resistor to give you that voltage drop at that current. I.e. for 20mA max, a -3.0vGS would be needed, so ~150 ohms would be around what you want. get a 300-500 ohm pot and twiddle as needed.


I used this technique to make an isolated digital input for a DAQ system, (added a series diode to protect against reverse polarity too) and I got it turning on at 2.2v and it ran fine upto 300V, the optocoupler current varied from ~2mA to 6mA iirc.

But a low turn on threshold may not be desireable, so if a resistor works fine, simplicity rules.
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Steve Conner
Wed Jan 02 2013, 04:31PM
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The original poster wanted to "detect 500V" so I imagine he wanted a threshold nearer 500V than 2.2V. tongue

The LND150 is another handy depletion mode MOSFET.
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ConKbot of Doom
Wed Jan 02 2013, 05:00PM
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Steve Conner wrote ...

The original poster wanted to "detect 500V" so I imagine he wanted a threshold nearer 500V than 2.2V. tongue

The LND150 is another handy depletion mode MOSFET.
just think of it as enhanced TTL tongue
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