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Thomas W
Sat Nov 10 2012, 04:21PM Print
Thomas W Registered Member #3324 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 06:57PM
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Hey, just wondering, will these kind of pumps pump water / oil through them?
Link2
and
Link2

and which do you think would be better for a water / oil cooling application, im building a waterblock
for my electronics lab for high power igbts ect for testing, i know i could just use normal heatsinks but.
A. this is a heck of alot more interesting
B. fun times :D
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Nik
Sat Nov 10 2012, 05:25PM
Nik Registered Member #53 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 04:31AM
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As long as its not really thick oil either of those pumps will work. However I recommend not getting the submersible kind, I've used them before in small projects and they are a god awful mess, even more so with oil. They drip oil for ages when you take them out of the tank.
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Dr. Slack
Sat Nov 10 2012, 06:09PM
Dr. Slack Registered Member #72 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 08:29AM
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The second pump is certainly centrifugal, and given the advertised head, I'm sure the first one is as well. This means that the fluid should be fairly low viscosity (like water), otherwise it will load the high speed impeller with excessive drag. You want a gear or peristaltic pump for heavy oils.

Water is a lot easier to clean up after than oil.
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Thomas W
Sat Nov 10 2012, 06:13PM
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yeh, my plan is to get a 100mm*100mm*3mm copper sheet off ebay then take some copper pipe to school and use the mill to mill the pipe in half then solder the pipe and sheet together and drill some holes for IGBTs and Fets for my varous testings, should work well i guess, any advice?
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Daedronus
Sat Nov 10 2012, 06:50PM
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I would just weld the pipe to the plate (without the cutting in half part)..
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Ash Small
Sat Nov 10 2012, 07:18PM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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I'd recommend a small submersible pump as well. A 12V bildge pump is ideal, and loads of places sell them down your way. Check out the yacht chandlers. (or Ebay).
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Thomas W
Sat Nov 10 2012, 07:32PM
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really im looking for the cheapest method possible, thats why i was looking at those 2 pumps, they are both rediculously cheap. as well as small and silent
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testtest
Sat Nov 10 2012, 10:01PM
testtest Registered Member #3271 Joined: Mon Oct 04 2010, 02:29AM
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I use a small 110V AC summersible pump (like the first one in your links) in my cooled CCD detector with water/glycol. Its been running for 4 years and was very cheap. The liquid keeps it cooled and lubricated in my case. So cheap that if it breaks I'll just cut off the supply and pipes and drop another one.
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Sulaiman
Sun Nov 11 2012, 09:24AM
Sulaiman Registered Member #162 Joined: Mon Feb 13 2006, 10:25AM
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I'd go for the second type as making a 'sealed' fluid circuit would be easier
and flow/speed control would be easy,
the submersible types are not suitable for flow/speed control.

The 'neatest' water cooled blocks that I have come across are where a copper pipe is pressed (presumably a fairly large press) into a channel (routed I think) in the aluminium heatsink block.
For a copper block I guess slightly flattening the pipe (after bending) then soldering it to the block would be 'neatest'.
Raise the block and pipe to the melting point of solder as a whole and use plenty of solder (with flux), clean up the semiconductor side last.
You may want to drill semiconductor package mounting holes in the block before laying cooling pipe as screw/bolt with nut is easier than tapped holes in the block.
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Ash Small
Sun Nov 11 2012, 09:43AM
Ash Small Registered Member #3414 Joined: Sun Nov 14 2010, 05:05PM
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Sulaiman wrote ...

the submersible types are not suitable for flow/speed control.


You just use a restrictor.

Something like this will be a lot better in the long term: Link2

You can also get smaller ones (350GPH), as well as larger ones.
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