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Hazmatt_(The Underdog)

Thu Nov 08 2012, 01:21AM

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Yea and here is my 8051 line following robot! class project.

I'm so much more man then you because I program in Assembly! HAH!

MOV A, #SLAP_U_IN_BACK_OF_HEAD
SETB SHEESH!

Seriously guys, a pissing contest about programming chips!? Really!?

When you get a job, like I dunno, building a Satellite or something, this kind of nonsense just becomes silly.

Just to shed some contrast to some of this "I'm better than you" Knob polishing,
I like to use the Basic Stamp. It's fun and an easy thing to play with, and it can do a lot if you give it a chance.
Some only have 16 I/O 's, but you know what, if you are clever and know something about serial communication, you can take 3 of those
I/O 's and clock them to handle a ton of bits!

Go ahead and pick on me or the Stamp, but I like it, as well as the PIC.

*shakes head back and forth* Better time is spent programming, then comparing how big your stream is, sheesh.

KLH

Thu Nov 08 2012, 06:11AM

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Did I just seriously step into 4chan? Because this thread sounds like some of the s***posting that goes on over there.

No, really - "I think arduino is for people who don't have the ability to put together a comparator and resistors . nuff said" sounds like borderline trolling, and some of the replies aren't any better.

Yes, you can use a full-blown single-chip computer to compare two voltages or to blink a light, and yes, you can use hundreds of comparators to display 'HELLO WORLD' or any other picture on a screen. Are any of these really appropriate? No.
As others have made clear, it should be obvious to all of us that there is a time and a place for everything; some applications warrant a simple analog circuit, while others demand the flexibility of a true microprocessor.

With regards to 'Arduino vs. bare MCU platform', I personally prefer to avoid additional abstraction layers, but I understand that there are many users who enjoy the degree of simplification that Arduino provides. As long as the platform can get the job done, to each his own.

Steve Conner

Thu Nov 08 2012, 08:18AM

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That's awesome! I vote we rename the forum to 4hvchan.

Back when the forum banner image said "HV Community" a colleague at work misread it as "HIV Community" which left me with some explaining to do. :/

Arduinos and Basic Stamps are the duct tape and cable ties of the embedded world.

tobias

Fri Nov 09 2012, 12:41AM

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If you are putting something together for the fun of it, does it really matter if you are using arduino, digital ICs or a 555?

TS00

Sun Nov 18 2012, 10:40AM

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I'd like to see you build a multicopter (with 3 axis gyro and 3 axis accelerometer) using comparators.

Ash Small

Sun Nov 18 2012, 12:44PM

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Hazmatt_(The Underdog) wrote ...

I'm so much more man then you because I program in Assembly! HAH!

MOV A, #SLAP_U_IN_BACK_OF_HEAD
SETB SHEESH!

I remember writing programs in binary on a Sinclair ZX80 back in the day.....it had 1k of memory for everything. One way you could write longer programs was to disable half of the display screen. (I was writing computer games mostly, and converting everything into binary meant you could add more features.) Only having 1k of RAM means you HAVE to get get the programming as efficient as possible.

Pinky's Brain

Sun Nov 18 2012, 04:15PM

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BTW, I just read the NXP is releasing sub 1 dollar 32 bit micros now :)

Avalanche

Sun Nov 18 2012, 04:36PM

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tobias wrote ...

If you are putting something together for the fun of it, does it really matter if you are using arduino, digital ICs or a 555?

555?

555 is for idiots!

Microwatt

Sun Nov 18 2012, 09:29PM

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TS00 wrote ...

I'd like to see you build a multicopter (with 3 axis gyro and 3 axis accelerometer) using comparators.

that would be easy. set them up in a window formation with 5-12% hysteresis. Your motors will obviously overshoot due to the rotational momentum. You only need three comparators. one for each and one for the error analysis.

Patrick

Sun Nov 18 2012, 10:30PM

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ill say it again, there is a time and place for discretes, intgrated, and MCU devices, its not a simple this or that...

i always laugh when i see the media preditcing the end of this, the end of that tech..... they want a simple one sentence explanation, but thats not how reality works.

if the soluition was so easy and simple, there wouldbe no need for professionals like Electrical/electronic eng, and comp sci.

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