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Inducktion
Thu Sept 20 2012, 02:57PM
Inducktion Registered Member #3637 Joined: Fri Jan 21 2011, 11:07PM
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2Spoons wrote ...

The problem with that is that peltiers use semiconductors, and as they get colder the resistance goes up (less thermal energy means fewer current carriers), so the I2R self heating goes up, and the heat pumping ability gets worse.

So the short answer is most likely 'no'.

But do all semiconductors have that property? Im pretty sure some have positive temp coefficient, in which case their resistance would go down as they get cooler. (MOSFET's or transistors do, I can't remember which)
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Conundrum
Mon Sept 24 2012, 07:43AM
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Yes, nearly all semiconductors exhibit this property.

The latest modification of thermoelectrics is to use lead telluride in place of bismuth telluride, which can achieve over 12% efficiency in the lab if strontium telluride is also present.
A mixture of the two or nanostructured BiPbTe could improve this still further.
Link2

Interestingly one possible explanation for observations of transient room temperature superconductivity is the presence of thermoelectric fibres within the bulk, which harness differences in temperature and convert them into Cooper pairs.

Link2
I thought this was my original theory but as it turns out others have done work in this field decades earlier.

However the very earliest documented effects were observed back in 1988 during testing of 1-2-3 aka YBa2Cu3O7 with excess barium or copper doping.

Others have noticed very small fractions of a larger bulk briefly superconduct but only under certain conditions.
The most pronounced effect is noticed with a compound with small amounts of tin and indium substituted in a basic perovskite at close to dry ice temperatures.

It is possible that the effects seen are simply due to minute quantities of tellurium introduced with the strontium by accident..




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Adam Munich
Mon Sept 24 2012, 12:51PM
Adam Munich Registered Member #2893 Joined: Tue Jun 01 2010, 09:25PM
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Unfortunately I can't access the nature article on that lead telluride TEC, but from what I gather it's the nano-hair layer, not the substance which makes it more efficient. Kind of like heat transporting fiberglass insulation, if that makes any sense.
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IntraWinding
Tue Sept 25 2012, 07:06PM
IntraWinding Registered Member #2261 Joined: Mon Aug 03 2009, 01:19AM
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The Marlow article on future materials is here: Link2
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