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hardjubejube
Mon Jul 23 2012, 05:34PM Print
hardjubejube Registered Member #5193 Joined: Wed Jun 06 2012, 08:35PM
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A while back I built a pretty good (but small) tesla coil and recently have discovered the plasma speakers/singing arc. I decided to build a small prototype for experimenting. I modified Grenadier's plasma speaker circuit (ie adding DC blocking caps, totem pole stage to clean up the square wave and some other small mods) but the concept is the same. Without going into details, I am using 2 MOSFETs in a half bridge configuration to drive a flyback transformer. I am using a SG3525 IC for PWM from an audio source. I had it up and running last week and the music sounds great however I had a couple issues. When testing it i used a 12V power supply, the arc was good but quite small. The circuit is built to take a 24V DC input by the way. Anyways, I have a sneaking suspicion that the arc may be throwing off high levels of EMF. I am running it at about 30-50kHz. After about 5 minutes of listening to the arc within pretty close proximity I seem to get pretty bad headaches (Although it is just me, my friend who helped on this project says I am probably just sensitive to EMF or high pitched sounds or something ie. I can hear dog whistles pretty well). It doesn't last for more than an hour, but I thought it was pretty strange. Since then I haven't really used it too much. I am thinking about putting a faraday cage around it (made of some 2mm metal mesh) as I did with my tesla coil, but I'm not really sure if this would help at all.

Another problem was that when I hooked up my larger 24V power supply (regulated and multiple fuses - one at 6A and the other at 3A) the arc was much larger and louder. The power supply is modified from an industrial cooling unit (like an air conditioner but much more powerful). The power supply is rated for 24V @ 14A and I was drawing about 0.5-2A with the arc. But something very strange happened after I had it running for about a minute. All of a sudden my house power went out for about 5 seconds, no fuses in the house or in the power supply were tripped and I didn't see any massive voltage spikes. I have no idea why this would happen, but regardless the project has been put on hold until I figure out what is going on and how to remedy it. If anyone has any suggestions or could offer any advice that would be very much appreciated!
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Dr. ISOTOP
Mon Jul 23 2012, 06:35PM
Dr. ISOTOP Registered Member #2919 Joined: Fri Jun 11 2010, 06:30PM
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Its exceedingly unlikely that the EMI is getting into your head and giving you headaches. You might be hearing the PWM frequency or other high-frequency components of the sound.
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Forty
Mon Jul 23 2012, 06:43PM
Forty Registered Member #3888 Joined: Sun May 15 2011, 09:50PM
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It could also be the light or the gases produced by the arc that's giving you headaches.
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HV Enthusiast
Mon Jul 23 2012, 07:02PM
HV Enthusiast Registered Member #15 Joined: Thu Feb 02 2006, 01:11PM
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Make sure to use proper ventilation when running CW type coils. They produce a lot of ozone and other nitrogen based compounds which can be pretty nasty.

Also, if you are hearing audible noise, check your DC supply. Best check it with AC coupling on the scope and see if there is any ripple. If you have lots of ripple, you are likely to be hearing that as hissing or audible hum depending on the magnitude / frequency.
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