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How easily can crystal ear pieces fail?

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Alex M
Wed Jul 18 2012, 09:43PM Print
Alex M Registered Member #3943 Joined: Sun Jun 12 2011, 05:24PM
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Hi,

I built a little AM radio receiver circuit (my first radio based project) and was using a crystal earpiece to listen to the stations, but after tuning into a very strong station (it was loud) I have managed to somehow damage my ear piece.

Now the fact the earpiece is broken is not really an issue, but I am wondering is it easy to kill them by feeding them too loud/strong of an audio signal?

The weird thing is that is still sort of works but the sound is very faint now. Perhaps its cracked or something?

BTW the radio is fine, if I connect up an LM386 based amplifier I can listen with my normal headphones or use a speaker.

Just wondering how easy it is to damage crystal ear pieces, and how they physically fail.

Thanks.
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Patrick
Wed Jul 18 2012, 10:13PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
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about 12 years ago i was told they were kinda sensitive to overpower, i though it would be due to the whisker fused on to the crystal, but your experience with it losing volume but still working eliminates that in your case.

I wonder if they can permanetly change shape after a loud output?

I know there sensitive, especially the cheap ones we used in high school electonics. The crystal tech goes way back too, in WW2 POW's used razors and a crystal to listen to forbidden radio stations.
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radiotech
Thu Jul 19 2012, 03:51AM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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The crystal earpieces consist of a bender piezo and a foil diaphram glued
to a point in the center of a lever.

Two things:

The crystal can perish because of too much heat.

If the diaphram becomes loose, it will rattle, where the glue failed,
but will also allow moisture in.

I doubt you would be able to destroy it with audio unless that audio
was extremely high voltage, like directly to the anode of a tube amp.

Many years ago we made some special project contact mikes up
out of those earpieces by taking off the foil cone and just using the driver pin.

We did have to enclose them in a latex sleeve to keep the moisture out.

There were questions about the purchase of them by our department. cheesey
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Conundrum
Thu Jul 19 2012, 07:44PM
Conundrum Registered Member #96 Joined: Thu Feb 09 2006, 05:37PM
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I noticed the same thing back when experimenting with crystal sets.
Would speculate that overheating of the crystal at the contact point occurs which causes it to depolarise.

In industry they polarise the ceramics by putting them in a freon or similar bath and then applying HV to the ceramic while above its Curie temperature then cooling the bath to "freeze in" the polarisation.

-A
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Alex M
Fri Jul 20 2012, 11:23PM
Alex M Registered Member #3943 Joined: Sun Jun 12 2011, 05:24PM
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Thanks for the replys.

It was only a cheap one from maplins so some of the reasons mentioned are probably why it has failed.

I will try and crack the plastic casing open and take a look inside, see if poking around brings it back to life.
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Alex M
Sat Jul 21 2012, 12:10AM
Alex M Registered Member #3943 Joined: Sun Jun 12 2011, 05:24PM
Location: The Shire, UK
Posts: 552
I took it apart and it seems like a piece of connecting copper strip was making bad contact with one of the plates when I checked it with my multimeter (visible on the second image).


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I managed to crack it (the crystal piece) during the process so I guess I will have to pick a new one up at some point.
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