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flyback stack for 60kV

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technology man
Sun Jun 03 2012, 07:07PM Print
technology man Registered Member #4193 Joined: Mon Nov 07 2011, 11:21AM
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For an x-ray project need i 60kV from flyback because i havn´t an other source.
the following pictures show my schematic.
My question is, wich is right und wich is wrong ?
I have not an idea !

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Alex M
Sun Jun 03 2012, 07:57PM
Alex M Registered Member #3943 Joined: Sun Jun 12 2011, 05:24PM
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Second one, if its a modern DC LOPT. Good luck with your project.
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technology man
Sun Jun 03 2012, 08:12PM
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Thank you.
If i get the first x-ray pictures i will show it you.

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Alex M
Sun Jun 03 2012, 08:43PM
Alex M Registered Member #3943 Joined: Sun Jun 12 2011, 05:24PM
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technology man wrote ...

Thank you.
If i get the first x-ray pictures i will show it you.



Awesome.

Also just be aware that around 60kV-80kV is when these transformers typically start to break down and arc over so oil might be needed. You will probably be fine but its good to keep that in mind when you are using it in an application such as this and not just drawing arcs from it.
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Ben Solon
Sun Jun 03 2012, 10:56PM
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also, keep in mind the current you can put through a lopt. using zvs would be your best bet, and but i am not sure what these things typically draw. they usually require an iron core driven by mains, so i am skeptical/
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brandon3055
Mon Jun 04 2012, 03:19AM
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You will definitly need oil otherwise the 30kv from the first one will arc to the core of the second one I don't think hot glue would be enough to stop that
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Antonio
Wed Jun 06 2012, 12:08AM
Antonio Registered Member #834 Joined: Tue Jun 12 2007, 10:57PM
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If the colors mean that you are trying to cascade two transformers by connecting the HV terminal of one to the ground pin of the other, there is an extremely serious insulation problem on the idea. May work if the central connection is grounded and everything is under oil, but expect a disaster...
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Dr. ISOTOP
Wed Jun 06 2012, 12:21AM
Dr. ISOTOP Registered Member #2919 Joined: Fri Jun 11 2010, 06:30PM
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ben123324 wrote ...

they usually require an iron core driven by mains, so i am skeptical/

False; most modern X-ray sources are driven by switching power supplies.
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Ben Solon
Wed Jun 06 2012, 02:01AM
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ok, didn't know that, but how much current can they source? surely much more than a typical lopt. keep in mind that the secondary built into these things uses ~30+ awg wire.
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Dr. ISOTOP
Wed Jun 06 2012, 02:29AM
Dr. ISOTOP Registered Member #2919 Joined: Fri Jun 11 2010, 06:30PM
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ben123324 wrote ...

ok, didn't know that, but how much current can they source? surely much more than a typical lopt. keep in mind that the secondary built into these things uses ~30+ awg wire.

Photography runs in short bursts (generally) so heating is less of a problem compared to secondary breakdown.
I've seen 60KW (peak) x-ray transformers roughly a cubic foot in size.
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