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Wireing my Variac

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TwirlyWhirly555
Sun Jun 03 2012, 10:16AM
TwirlyWhirly555 Registered Member #4104 Joined: Fri Sept 23 2011, 06:54PM
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One Way i saw it done was to use a small circuit to switch some resistors in series with the transformer and then after the core was slightly magnitised a relay would then swith the resistors out of the circuit , and as the core was slightly magnitised when resistors are switched out inrush current is reduced .

Any idea if that would work ?

You coluld use a NTC thermistor with a inital high resistance to limit inrush and then as it heats up resistance drops .
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mister_rf
Sun Jun 03 2012, 10:21AM
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Yes, the normal inrush current limiters consist of one or more NTC resistor in series to the primary winding of transformer e.g.

Link2,property=Data__en.pdf;/ PDF_Applicationnotes.pdf

or using a high power resistor, which is shorted by some relay after few seconds
e.g.
Link2
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mister_rf
Sun Jun 03 2012, 10:24AM
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see also here:
Link2
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Thomas W
Sun Jun 03 2012, 11:33AM
Thomas W Registered Member #3324 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 06:57PM
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haha!, mum made me join the party and help out, i planed to work on my variac D:

EDIT:
i escaped >:)

BE1Mqs
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Wolfram
Sun Jun 03 2012, 10:04PM
Wolfram Registered Member #33 Joined: Sat Feb 04 2006, 01:31PM
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I just deleted a bunch of off-topic posts from this thread. Everyone involved should take some time to read the rules again.

For the soft-start I would use something like this Link2 . Be sure to dimension the series capacitor for the relay current. Or just try with different values until the voltage across the relay coil is close to the rated voltage after the delay. 0.47uF will give a relay current of around 30mA at 50Hz.
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Thomas W
Sun Jun 03 2012, 10:34PM
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hmm, can i use just a contactor?
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radiotech
Mon Jun 04 2012, 12:01AM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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A small AC relay, SPST Arranged with a resistor in series, such that it could not pull in,
however, if pushed in by hand, it would hold. This is connected across your variac input.

Wrapped around the relay coil, is several turns of wire, This extra coil is sized to
soft start the variac. When the power is switched on, the heavy current times the inrush
current will provide the amp turns necessary to pull in the relay. The contacts then
short out this coil and the relay will hold in via the voltage winding. It only works if
the polarity of the coils is cumulative, that is the fields add.

Variarions of this fiddle involve making the hold circuit DC.

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Thomas W
Mon Jun 04 2012, 12:08AM
Thomas W Registered Member #3324 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 06:57PM
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ok.. i have no understanding of what you said, im feeling more dumb by the day, mabye i need to just try some things out and expermiment rolleyes
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