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Electrikid221MnM
Mon May 28 2012, 09:19PM Print
Electrikid221MnM Registered Member #4172 Joined: Sat Oct 29 2011, 05:57PM
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Hello. This is my first post in a while. I recently ran into a roadblock on some HV things. I had success on a 2N3055 FBT driver, but I wanted to switch to a more High Power situation and decided to use this schematic (I attached a pic.) I have really developed my skills in building circuits according to schematics, so I am sure I built it right. This is what happened: I connected power, but nothing happened. After that I tested my IRF510, my 2N2222, and my 555 and they were all fine. I checked my resistors, and they were all at the right resistance, I checked my capacitor and it was fine. My power supply is a 12v 3 A switching supply, switching at 60 Hz.
My flyback is good because I got resistance readings on both internal coils
Primary Resistance: .6Ω
Secondary Resistance: 2.72 MΩ

It's a possibility that it could just be that my supply is switching, but otherwise I can't see anything wrong with it. Please Help!


1338239946 4172 FT0 5552n2222irf510 Fbt Driver
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Pinky's Brain
Mon May 28 2012, 09:56PM
Pinky's Brain Registered Member #2901 Joined: Thu Jun 03 2010, 01:25PM
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What exactly do you mean with switching supply? Do you mean it's AC? (What is commonly called a switching power supply doesn't work at 60 Hz.) The circuit needs a DC input voltage of ~12 volt (couple volt more or less doesn't matter, as long as the 555 can take it).

It might just not be building up sufficient current while it's turned on because it was designed for a 10 turn (low inductance) primary.

Potentially a MOSFET killer that circuit when run without pulling an arc ...
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Electrikid221MnM
Mon May 28 2012, 10:26PM
Electrikid221MnM Registered Member #4172 Joined: Sat Oct 29 2011, 05:57PM
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By "Switching" I mean its PWM. I just assume its switching on and off because of the tingle it gives me when I accidentally touch one of the power output pins.
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brandon3055
Mon May 28 2012, 10:43PM
brandon3055 Registered Member #4548 Joined: Mon Apr 23 2012, 03:52AM
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is your flyback ac or dc because i dont think you should be able to pick up any resistants in the secondary it should be to high (as far as i now) also if you are using one of the built in primarys you will might be better off winding your own because one of the built in primarys is designed for around 100v at the verry least try using the winding with the leest resistants from memory it should be around .2-.4 ohm

edit: dont quot me on anything i just said its been a while sints i have exparimented with such low power circuits flyback circuits LOL

1338245538 4548 FT1630 1
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Neet Studio
Mon May 28 2012, 11:36PM
Neet Studio Registered Member #4037 Joined: Fri Jul 29 2011, 03:13PM
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BTW I used an inverting MOSFET driver (such as TPS2811 Link2 and many others) itself as the oscillator and MOSFET driver instead of a 555 for a few projects.

TPS2811 has a dual MOSFET directly with 2A drive current (the two gates can be parallel), has a built-in 11.5V regulator that can work with up to 40V input.

You can build a relaxation oscillator by adding 1 resistor and 1 cap. It has hysteresis input so it is just like an inverter with schmitt trigger input except it can drive your MOSFET.
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Forty
Tue May 29 2012, 04:49AM
Forty Registered Member #3888 Joined: Sun May 15 2011, 09:50PM
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2.72 mega ohms for the secondary? as an example, assume the wire is 40awg (~.08mm dia), 2.72 mega ohms is like 2.5 million feet of wire (according to my lazy search results Link2 )

-is it a dc flyback? if so then the series diode could be giving you the high reading
-try a continuity test with a battery and series-ed LED and resistor to see if it really is "good"

If your supply is outputting AC then you need to rectify and smooth it to power your circuit.
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Derek
Wed Mar 27 2013, 06:21PM
Derek Registered Member #7485 Joined: Tue Oct 23 2012, 05:49AM
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I Built this same circuit. I had to put in a snubber diode(fried my 555). 100 1/4 watt resistor gets very hot. It does work though.
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Patrick
Sat Apr 06 2013, 04:42PM
Patrick Registered Member #2431 Joined: Tue Oct 13 2009, 09:47PM
Location: Chico, CA. USA
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ive built this exact circuit back in 1999-ish, can you post pics of your exact build? we should be able to help you get it working...
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