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Thomas W
Mon May 21 2012, 06:23PM Print
Thomas W Registered Member #3324 Joined: Sun Oct 17 2010, 06:57PM
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Hi guys,
ive got 6 of these mosfets:
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what do you guys recomend I make?
-ZVS Driver
-HalfBridge Driver
-FullBridge Driver
-SSTC?

I cant make up my mind
im leaning towards FullBridge Driver
however im not overly sure what i should do, only ever made a ZVS before...


Thanks,
Thomas Williamson
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Alex M
Mon May 21 2012, 06:42PM
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I have managed to kill several of these, despite the high voltage rating they have.
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Thomas W
Mon May 21 2012, 07:07PM
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oh drat :/
better or worse then IRFPs?
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Ben Solon
Mon May 21 2012, 07:21PM
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they have an avalanche rating of 2 joules. so it acts as a tvs in itself. you wont need to worry about over-voltage unless there is significant current behind it or it is significantly long enough to equate to >=2J. i find that voltage kills power switches much faster than current, and unless you have massive surge current, you will be forewarned by the heating of the device. if you expect to have greater energy than two joules or you are feeling paranoid, just slap a string of 1.5KE220CA in there for 440V or use different diodes in the series to bring the breakdown level of the string to as close to 600v as you dare.
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Alex M
Mon May 21 2012, 07:21PM
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Tom Williamson wrote ...

oh drat :/
better or worse then IRFPs?

I think they will probably be fine what ever you do with them, its just anything that involves MOSFET's never works well for me.

Their gate capacitances is about twice as large than IRFP260's, which is probably the only thing to watch out for.
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Thomas W
Mon May 21 2012, 07:24PM
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what does the gate capacitence cause, i have no experiance in such things saddly
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Mattski
Mon May 21 2012, 07:46PM
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Tom Williamson wrote ...

what does the gate capacitence cause, i have no experiance in such things saddly
A higher gate capacitance means that it takes longer to switch from on-state to off-state, or vice-versa *. While in between the two states there is a lot of power being dissipated as the FET is in a high-resistance state. So having a higher gate capacitance increases the switching loss. If switching loss is too high, you need to decrease the frequency, because the switching loss is incurred once per switching cycle.

In general to optimize power dissipation in a FET you want to have the switching loss and on-state conduction loss to be equal.

* Just as a side note the gate capacitance is technically nonlinear, so for power FETs the gate charge is generally of more interest than capacitance, but you can come up with effective capacitances related to the energy stored, time to discharge, or small-signal, which more detailed datasheets will include and distinguish between.
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Thomas W
Mon May 21 2012, 07:49PM
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ok, so how bad are these mosfets for a Full bridge?
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Mattski
Mon May 21 2012, 07:55PM
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Tom Williamson wrote ...

ok, so how bad are these mosfets for a Full bridge?
There is no single answer to that question, it depends way too much on your specific design and specifications. But as the SiHG73N60E handles a larger current with less on-resistance than the also-mentioned IRFP260, the SiHG73N60E will be tend more suited to a design with a higher current, or the same current at a lower frequency.
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Thomas W
Mon May 21 2012, 08:02PM
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i have no clue on any of this, is there anything i can read up on how to design these things?
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