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Alex M
Sat Apr 21 2012, 05:22AM Print
Alex M Registered Member #3943 Joined: Sun Jun 12 2011, 05:24PM
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I have started looking into what I could get for my first oscilloscope, but don't really know what to look out for.

I have read that the Rigol DS1052E is meant to be a good beginner/first scope and I was thinking of going for that one (one I convince my parents to let me buy it, its my money but they sort of control it).

Any one here have the Rigol DS1052E or have any recommendations for a good first scope?

And what does the bandwidth of a scope actually mean anyway?

Thanks.
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Conundrum
Sat Apr 21 2012, 08:31AM
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Bandwidth denotes the highest signal frequency that the scope can display.
So if your scope has a higher bandwidth then it can display more useful information within that signal range.
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Alex M
Sat Apr 21 2012, 01:21PM
Alex M Registered Member #3943 Joined: Sun Jun 12 2011, 05:24PM
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Conundrum wrote ...

Bandwidth denotes the highest signal frequency that the scope can display.
So if your scope has a higher bandwidth then it can display more useful information within that signal range.


Oh ok, so it literally just means it can sample waveforms upto that certain frequency.

Also is that Rigol DS1052E any good for a first scope? Link2

Thanks.
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Steve Conner
Sat Apr 21 2012, 01:38PM
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The Rigol is popular, several of our members own it.

Before splashing out, have a look on Ebay, Freecycle, Gumtree etc. to see if anyone has an old low-end analog scope. A 20MHz Hitachi or similar. When I was starting out in electronics, people were giving them away.
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Weston
Sat Apr 21 2012, 05:16PM
Weston Registered Member #1316 Joined: Thu Feb 14 2008, 03:35AM
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The rigol is a great scope. I have one and the storage features are wonderful for power electronics work.

Either get a rigol if the budget permits, or get a cheap analog scope like steve said.
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Tetris
Sat Apr 21 2012, 10:52PM
Tetris Registered Member #4016 Joined: Thu Jul 21 2011, 01:52AM
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I remember my first scope... it was before I even liked electronics, and my dad bought me a scope when I was 9. He said then, "You'll want to use it one day." However it got hit too many times, so it doesn't display right. Don't get a tube one :P
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Thomas W
Sat Apr 21 2012, 11:06PM
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i brought a old TRIO 35Mhz CS-1577A at a Hamfest for about £35 hehe ^^
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Proud Mary
Sat Apr 21 2012, 11:07PM
Proud Mary Registered Member #543 Joined: Tue Feb 20 2007, 04:26PM
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Get a twenty quid for 20 MHz job on ebay, Alex.
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tobias
Sun Apr 22 2012, 02:55AM
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I have a Rigol 1062CA. They are good enough! I rent a small apartment and do not have too much space, only one table. So for me was an easy choice: renting a bigger place, for two months, would pay the difference between a cheap used huge-on-the-table analog and a digital small new one.
If you have plenty of space, go for the used one. Even if you decide to buy another one in a couple years, it's worth it.
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Alex M
Mon Apr 23 2012, 02:16AM
Alex M Registered Member #3943 Joined: Sun Jun 12 2011, 05:24PM
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Thanks for all the replies guys!

@Tom Williamson lucky, how much did they cost new?

@HighVoltageChick unlucky.

@tobias You mentioned a really good point that I had not thought of, the size of the scope. Somehow I ended up with the smallest bedroom even though I am the oldest sibling so the smaller size of a digital scope is a plus.

@Proud Mary @Steve Conner I did briefly look on ebay but my parents don't really like the idea of me buying second hand items over the internet (they are a bit old fashioned), even if it is much cheaper.

The Rigol is £280 on Amazon UK which I have more than enough for already (I have been slowly saving for something like this).

I think I will probably wait awhile since I have been known to impulse buy on a few occasions in the past, although I think I will probably end up buying it at some point.

Just one more thing, the Rigol is rated for 300v input max. Is this ok when scoping the waveforms on the high side of a SMPS? (Don't know if that is the correct term, the part the connects to the drain of the switching MOSFET). Is that what the 10x part on the probe is used for, to add more input impedance and allow for higher voltages?

As one of the first things I think I will do is have a go at making a SMPS using one of the countless yellow switching transformers I have here.

Thanks.

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