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WaveRider
Tue Apr 03 2012, 07:36AM
WaveRider Registered Member #29 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 09:00AM
Location: Hasselt, Belgium
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Excellent observation radiotech. The wave does indeed carry angular momentum. As a result, there will be a "twisting" effect on the dish as a result of the reaction torque (as well as a reaction force) on the dish as a result of radiation pressure on the dish. The effect is _VERY_ small tho'.

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radiotech
Tue Apr 03 2012, 08:31PM
radiotech Registered Member #2463 Joined: Wed Nov 11 2009, 03:49AM
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The radiation pressure argument didn't seem to explain the Crookes radiometer operation
though.


1333485105 2463 FT135316 Crooks Radiometer
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WaveRider
Wed Apr 04 2012, 08:15AM
WaveRider Registered Member #29 Joined: Fri Feb 03 2006, 09:00AM
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The force exerted on the vanes of the Crooke's radiometer is dominated by the thermodynamic effects of the gas particles striking the vanes. In fact, shining light on the radiometer causes the vanes to rotate in the _wrong_ direction, if radiation pressure was assumed to be the cause. (Rotates with black sides trailing. If radiation pressure was the cause, the white sides would trail.)
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Wastrel
Wed Apr 04 2012, 10:17PM
Wastrel Registered Member #4095 Joined: Thu Sept 15 2011, 03:19PM
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Radiometers rotate in the 'right' direction if sufficiently evacuated but with much less torque.

I'm with Steve, I think these guys are selling snake oil. They have a basis set that is only orthogonal for short distance on axis communication. It's a neat solution to a problem nobody has.
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